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Alright, everybody. Welcome back to SD YT the podcast. I'm your host. I'm Porter, and today we're talking to a military officer real estate investor and aspiring philanthropist. His name is Ruben Ordonia's coming out of New York.

Currently though, Station in North Carolina. So we're gonna talk about a few things. Specifically, in January, our core values, we're talking about ambition, perseverance, and reflection.

So we're talking leveling up in your twenties. Right? What does that mean as it applies to finance, faith, and fortitude? We'll talk about a couple extra values that he's got that he wants to cover as well.

And sort of how he embodies the character of his character and and how he's representing himself and made something of himself and then going forward here starting in 20 22.

So guys, welcome back to SDYT, the podcast. This is now season 2 on Porter. I'm your host, and this is SD YT the podcast. Ruben, welcome to SDYT the podcast, man.

How are you doing? Doing great. Thank you for having order. It's great to finally be on the podcast. Yeah. No. I'm glad we finally had this come together. We've been talking about this for Actually, I think a little over a year now.

It would be over a year since -- Man. -- since we we were stuck in that room. That's that's crazy. Yeah. I guess a little over a year. Well, I'm glad we could finally make it happen.

But let's let's just get this rolling. 1 of the things you said to me that I think is is pretty cool is is 1 of your aspirations is to make a lot of money, give it away, and watch people do cool stuff with it.

And I I think that's super cool. As as sort of any aspiration in general, to be able to be into that position, but I guess as far as finance and and faith are concerned, maybe even a little bit of fortitude.

How have you sort of exemplified those values or or integrated them into your own character to make that goal a reality?

What have you been doing? Good question. So those 3 kind of topics that you just cover their faith financing fortitude. I mean, insofar as, like, the faith aspect, I go to church every Sunday.

I I help out the local community. As you said before, like, I'm stationed in North Carolina. 1 of the big things that I that I do there right now is that I assist with the the local church plant that we just started there.

It's called apillar church or top sale. And and I try to help there as much as I can especially with the families.

We're currently about to start up a youth group here in in January tenth. It's gonna be, like, our first youth group. And I'm gonna be a part of that running that kids, and then just trying to find any way that I can just fit in there.

And even if I PCS, The cool thing about pillar is that it's actually an association of churches that fall under the Pretoria project and so anywhere where there's a military installations typically a rink where there's usually a pillar somewhere around there.

So there's 1 in Stafford.

It's 1 in like Woodlawn, and I'm looking to go over to Japan, so there's 1 in Okinawa. So I can definitely get plugged in if I go overseas, I'm also extremely not just the the church aspect, but mostly religious.

I mean, I try as much as possible. I have a strong faith from God. Do you think I I guess in your experience and I I wanna talk a little bit about you called it the Preturium project. You might even familiar with that.

That's that's actually pretty interesting. But but before we get into that just to tie off your point, do you think that I guess, you say going to church every Sunday, but not to diminish your faith or anything like that.

But do you think faith as a generalized value, not necessarily religious, as a generalized value, has actually played a large role in you developing your vision and and aspirations for your life then?

Yeah. A hundred percent, I would say. So, I mean, you have to have faith with something.

Right? I mean, you have to have faith in the fact that you're gonna succeed. And whenever you're trying. So, yeah, we're breaking off from just the the religious idea of faith, which is kinda like what I try to embody on daily.

And and we're just pushing up like, let's say, like, the entrepreneurial side of faith, then yes, like like you need it. You need to have hope that Yagurm to succeed in something.

Whether that be, you know, finance, the military, whatever career path you choose, and and ultimately the faith that regardless of the obstacles that you encounter, you'll be able to overcome them somehow.

I also think faith gives way to strategizing And so far as, like, if I faith that I am going to actually do something and accomplish something, then I'm gonna put more effort into figuring out how to do it rather than just sitting down and letting things just kind of play out.

I mean, isn't that counterintuitive to faith then? Just sort of taking it for for what it is and and like a hope of this will work out?

What if I have faith in the in the fact that my business model is gonna work out. I think somebody that puts more effort into figuring out how that's going to kind of play out. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. I I think so.

But But to clarify since I'm not the only 1 listening, I think the interesting thing about faith is it's not so much like it's Even even in more of an extreme case, let's call it just a blind faith that something's gonna work out.

But it still requires you to take whatever sort of natural gifts and capabilities you have to help carry that through. Right? Like, regardless of how spiritual you actually are or whatever religion you practice, or not, I suppose.

There's a sort of inherent quality I think in every person -- Mhmm. -- to be able to survive to take care of themselves in whatever aspect is applicable there. So if there's a God or in in my case just God, but somebody to say, okay.

Well, if you have these natural gifts, it's probably because then God gave them to you. Right? So if you're not using them to accomplish whatever you're hoping to have accomplished, Well then, you're not really meeting in the middle.

You know, you're just leaving it essentially up to chance, and that's not the sort of embodiment of faith as I understand it.

What what do you think about that? Is that kinda what you're trying to say? Yeah. Yeah. I I think that kinda hits the nail on the head.

I think so I mean, like in religion, we have blind faith. Right? But even with people with blind faith, there's always I'll tie this into religion real quick, and then I'll go back to that point of, like, actually trying to -- Yeah.

Sure. -- use that faith to to build something. So, like, even with blind faith people, people in the religious community like to say a lot about blind faith, but there's also this they call them apologetics. Right?

Which is like the actual evidence that we have for the faith that we that we demonstrate. So, like, I'm a Christian, but there's also a side of me that actually looks at the evidence in order to defend that idea when I'm with somebody.

Same thing in business, if I have faith that my business plan is gonna work out or if I have faith that my business plan is something actually worthwhile than a more use.

I wanna acquire everything that I know and and do the research to actually prove to somebody, hey, my business plan is a good idea.

I think that actually fits in pretty well with a lot of the things that we've talked about on previous episodes. And then on our show, survival Dead YT on on Facebook and and TikTok and YouTube and Instagram.

But the the point that you sort of have to do your homework and because you're out of school doesn't nullify the fact that you've got to do some research and understand what you're getting into.

And I really like the fact that you said yeah.

And I really like the fact that you call them apologetics, but essentially, it's just evidence or or proof or, you know, how how can you how can you convince or persuade somebody that what you're doing is worthwhile. Yeah.

And I think that's a a valid aspect of communication today where it's not just so much, I guess, communicating to entertain as much as it is communicating to show that there is value in something you're doing or in yourself or whatever.

The same same ways like you you put it in words or on paper for a resume.

Right? But you gotta be able to conceptualize it in your head first, I think. And that's a strong aspect of faith. I don't know that really gets communicated as heavily in in sort of public which is kind of interesting too.

I heard a story, matter of fact, a couple I don't know, a couple years ago now, where there's a flood Pick a city, pick a storm.

It doesn't necessarily matter as much in this example, but there's a flood that rolls through the town. And as the water starts to rise and creep into people front doors, and you can hear it outside.

People start to move around. Right? Whether they're trying to leave and drive away or or sort of scurry into their houses and and get things up off the ground.

The water continues to rise. For whatever reason, a river dam or a storm, rain, whichever doesn't matter. But the the water continues to rise, and then it starts to come into the windows.

And a lot of people start to leave at this point, But there's a few people that say, we're gonna just wait this out. You know, it's wet, but it'll be okay.

We'll dry it out and take care of it and just and then and then it gets so high that they can't leave. The people who have boats leave. The people who have cars are now stuck. Right? And so they start climbing up onto their roofs.

And as the water starts to crest over the gutters and start rising up the roof, the people with the boats come back to these people that haven't left yet. And they say, Just get in the boat.

Like, we'll help you. We'll get you out of here. It'll be okay, you know, trying to coax these people calm them down. Let's know it's okay. God will take care of us. And you say, okay. Well, got it. But, like, we can help you.

We're here now, and he said, no, it's God will take care of us. Alright. So the boats leave. Well, as the water gets closer to the ridge of the roof, and these people are just sort of sitting on this dry island of shingle space.

People and helicopters then come by to rescue them, and the water's sort of raging, I guess, around them, and flowing, and people in the helicopters go down over a loud speaker, like, hey, come, get onto the ladder, you know, can help you.

We can take care of you. We can get you out of here and keep you safe. And that's okay. God will take care of you. And I think there's an important lesson there that Maybe then, God sent the helicopter if you wanna think of it that way.

You know? Maybe God was the inspiration in that boat driver's mind to be like, let me check for people that need help. Yeah.

And that that sort of inspiration, I think, is is is overstated, not that there's anything wrong with focusing on that kind of extreme case, but but but you gotta be able to meet in the middle and Whether it's these apologetics or this evidence that you had discussed in business and entrepreneurship or just even a more religious perspective, You don't have to necessarily, in my opinion, go to church to practice religion and be spiritual, but but you've got to make the effort I guess, is the point in whatever aspect.

I do believe though that not even just religion, but, I guess, wanna call it spirituality, I mean, I'll call it religion, I'll call it Christianity. But if we look at most faith there's always this idea of community.

So when I say church, I don't just mean like the physical structure. I also mean the community that practice. That's that's practice that faith. Okay. Yeah. Sure. That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. 100 percent. I I stray away from here.

Do you have, like, brick and mortar church because, like, the church that I attended, like, we meet at a community center in, like, sneeze Ferry. So it's not like you know, this this old, like, Gothic cathedral.

Right? It's like, you know, like the shrimp festival with you like the past 2 weeks. So going there, it's like a little auditorium. And it's just actually just a community of people that that practice practice that faith.

So I I do think when I say church, you can also supplement that for, like, that's simply just for that faith group. Community. I think there needs to be that idea intertwined there.

Well, I mean, that community is exactly like what you were talking about with the Pretorian project and and and the that association of churches as well. Right? So you can sort of do it remotely or in different locations as well.

Yeah. I like that I like that take being able to take that that faith with you, I guess, sort of brings us into this this fortitude concept you mentioned you wanted to talk about as well where Let's let's get a little background there.

Where where are you from? What city state? Let's see. Sweet. Okay. So I was born in Cali Columbia. And immigrated to the US when I was 2 of my parents. So I came over with my mom in 19 98, but that was already here.

We came over illegally. Right? Sure. I feel like I have to mention that now. It's kinda kinda sad. But yeah. Sure. Alright. Yeah. And so I came over and I lived in Jersey City, New Jersey, my entire life.

Basically from grade school to high school was in Jersey City, attended a kind of like 1 off public high school here. By 1 off, I mean, like, the developed kids very well, like, AP classes, honors classes, all that in in the inner city.

And did well for myself here, but going to college, I was feasible at the time, graduating in late 20 14 just just because of money.

Sure. I'm frustrated. I have the money to afford to to send me to the 10 new schools that I got into. So I decided to enlist the Marine Corps to the Marine Corps, was an aviation technician from the Marine Corps.

And once I actually came back from boot camp and during my M0S school, I applied for ROTC scholarship. I was able to get this ROTC scholarship, and then was blessed to go to Columbia University on that scholarship.

Spent for this. 4 years there, and then commissioned in 20 19 as an officer. So that's kind of like a little summary of, like, my path to where I am right now. So yeah.

I mean, I I definitely think my upbringing played a significant role in as everybody's upbringing does, like, in how they view life, but coming from an immigrant family, coming from a dad that was working all the time, in janitorial services in a month who still work in janitor services.

Just to see how far they worked to to basically give me everything I have right now. It helped me along my way. Definitely help me develop that word 1 aspect of that word.

Oh, I imagine. Yeah. Especially coming here trying to establish a family, let alone a career, let alone your own life as you got older. Alright. III can't even imagine what that would have been like.

I guess to a certain degree. Right? Like everybody growing up tries to find their own identity and turn into something as best as they can, but I imagine you had to be pretty resourceful to to make that happen.

How do you how did you see that being developed as as you got older as you grew up before you enlisted, let's say, before you got out of high school.

The the 42? Yeah. Yeah. What were some aspects of your of your upbringing of your childhood that helped you sort of turn it because you you you hear all kinds of stories. Right?

Where You either grow into this sort of hero of your own fable or like this sort of worse off depiction of what you could have been, but what what sort of swayed you the other way in in terms of being able to push yourself and learning to be resourceful and persevere despite whatever difficult came up.

Yeah. Good good sec. Okay. So okay. So so we're about to get a a little more familiar with because I think that came from I think middle school was a big turning point, specifically, if grade.

So I was really overweight as a kid. Really? Yeah. I was actually I was actually pretty, actually, pretty overweight as a kid. And in my family in Colombia, a lot of them are actually overweight.

That's caused some health problems, complications now. But, you know, as a kid, I was just, like, anything in sight, and I was actually bullied quite a bit for it growing up.

So, like, my some of my best friends actually and I and I love them now. I mean, you can be friends with your bullies at some point like that happens.

Yeah. Sure. People grow up. Young dudes are assholes regardless. So Yep. So I I was pulling quite a bit from I think when when my wake when it became an issue, I'd say, like, sixth and seventh grade.

And so I decided to make a change. I think around like 12 or 13 because 1 of my friends actually sat me down. He wasn't in my 1 of my good friends. And, like, did he mess with me, who not even he did, but he generally cared about me.

He's like a big brother, he looked at me and he was like, And I remember this vividly because it was like the turning point where I was like, okay, I gotta actually do something about my life.

He, like, looked at me, like, Hey, Ruben, like, you're extremely unhealthy and the way you're looking is pretty disgusting.

Like, he sent that to me -- Oh, wow. -- at, like, Robert 13. And so I was like, okay. I, like, took that. Like, I internalized that.

And before, like, I had no cold fat. I had been cold, you know, unhealthy. I had been cold, you know, a bunch of different names. I really didn't care. But when he told me that I kinda something just clicked in my hand.

I was like, okay. Like, I actually have to make a change. Like, I actually have to do something. So the summer of seventh grade going into eighth grade year, my dad had had a treadmill downstairs.

He actually bought a treadmill for me when I was, you know, growing up to, like, actually do something and I never used it, like, then lifted, like, an old broke down elliptical and and a treadmill in the back.

You're right? And you you're mentioning with the treadmill in the basement. So what I did was every every day, I'd go downstairs for, like, 20 minutes a day, and I would just put a hoodie on, and I would just start running.

I would try on the treadmill. And I would run, and then I would breaks, and I run again, and I go with it sometimes twice a day. So I started doing that, and then I started looking into into ways of, like, just being overall healthier.

So I, like, That's something I like cut out fast food. I like cut out sodas. I like cut out, like, super sweet drinks and all that stuff. And I was just doing a lot of running and I start doing a lot of like body weight stuff.

So I do like a hundred push ups every night and like 500 crunches or something ridiculous like that. Sure. And that that summer, I lost, I don't know, somewhere between, like, 15, 20 pounds.

Good for you. And it made a significant difference, especially coming back in eighth grade because then everybody there noticed that I had you know, guy in skinny. I had lost weight.

Sure. And that kinda leaned into, like, an obsession or with, like, being healthy and always working out and always doing something In my spare time, that was, like, related to, like, fitness kind of came in a healthy obsession.

Right? Because, like, most kids actually the way that I was doing was kind of extreme. So there were a few like body like body dysmorphia. I came along with that and like eating disorders and stuff like that.

But I would say that that point in my life when I first realized like, okay, like, I can actually accomplish things on my own if I just try to stick to it. And then from there, like, I was never an athlete growing up.

Like, trust I'm still not an athlete today, but after eighth grade, once I was done there, going into high school at McNahan academic here in Jersey City, I wanted to join the sports team.

Mhmm. I was a good basketball. I didn't play soccer as a kid because I my parents couldn't afford it even though I wanted to.

I hadn't played baseball in my life. But what I did know how to do was run on the treadmill. So I decided to join the cross country and I joined the cross central team.

And the first couple weeks of doing that in the summer, especially out here in the heat, it sucked. Right? Like, I was on, like, 2 hours a day, and it was just horrible.

But there was definitely something about that team aspect and being there with the guys in training and just trying to be better and trying to excel where I I guess that stick to it, isn't that for you to just kept on developing?

Because at at 1 point, we fast forward like my junior year.

I was running on average, like, 60 to 70 miles a week with with with my friends running, like, 17 35 ks, stuff like that. And -- Nice. Who likes, stage sectional champions. So I would I would say from yeah.

From middle school up until, like, all of high school, like, running sports and then just like constant improvement within those rooms helped me realize that, like, if I just stick 2 stuff and actually give it like an honest intent.

I'm gonna naturally get better.

It's something that stuck with me now. You may not be where you wanna be in life, but unless you do something or if you do that thing, you will be better than when you started. Sure. Like, that that that's with anything.

If somebody just like, the goal is there, but you also have to notice the improvement that comes along with that. So I'm happy. I never became, like, you know, I didn't go to college for running. But did I get tremendously better at it?

And did it help me in my overall life? Yes. So I'm grateful for that. I like that, Jack. Wrote that. III hope that kinda, like, explains a little bit on of how I developed that fortitude. And then running just as a support sucks.

Like, you need 1 and 2 to to go out and and run 5 k's in the middle of the summer and get people for the guy 1 of, like, the worst experiences in my life. Like, we all know because we're in the marine corps so, like, PFT suck already.

Now when you're actually competing and training for that, and running with these other guys that, like, have done this since they were, like, Ted, like, it's hard.

Sure. Yeah. It's a great sport, my love. Well, I I think more because of the camaraderie, I could get behind it if you take out the running piece. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think if you do that they just call them tailgating. Yeah.

But but But no, I'm I'm with you, man. The the consistency definitely makes the difference in anything for sure. But to develop, I guess, especially in your case, either spiritual or mental, emotional, or even just physical fitness.

Definitely requires some but I think it also requires a little bit of introduction to the concept because you don't know what you don't know.

Right. So but before we get into this last piece talking about finance, because that can get kinda loaded. Let's take a couple minutes. We'll take a break and then we'll come back.

So folks will come back and we'll we'll talk with Ruben a little bit more about finance, leveling up in your twenties. We'll talk about ambition and and perseverance a little bit more for a few minutes.

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I'm Porter. I'm your host, and again on this episode, we're talking to Ruben Ordonia specifically about perseverance and ambition, and the drive that he had, the fortitude that he had, the the focuses on faith and finance.

Basically level up in his twenties, to get from where he was, as sort of in his own head, in his own image, his own character at the time in his early teens, till when he got into his twenties, to be something more, right, as as he wanted it to be, to better develop the character of his character, so to speak.

So Where we left off though, we were talking about all sorts of things from basically your your upbringing.

But as it applied to physical fitness, and spiritual fitness. 1 thing I wanna touch on Ruben real quick in in the last couple minutes we've got is sort of financial fitness.

And I think that plays a role too because at least in my experience, you can't really go from nothing to something, whatever that something is without understanding how to budget and how to work your finance.

Is what sort of a, I guess, role did did budgeting and let's call it financial fitness, then having your perspective on your way to where you're at.

Being a 20 something year old coming out of college, being in in some sort of deck. Right? Moving to a new state, trying to kinda just develop yourself the way you manage your money is extremely important, but and and I found that out.

Pretty quickly. Growing up as a kid, right, like, nobody really teaches you how to manage your money.

Like, that's not something that you learned in school. That's something that more so. I mean, your your parents can pass it on to you and and and that's what my dad did did with me.

And it took me a while for for it to actually stick But budgeting has helped me tremendously, especially now that, you know, I owe through property.

I make a I make a steady income. I have multiple different types of investments that III put that money into.

Paying off debt, especially coming out of school 25000 dollars in debt, having a car that's, you know, 25000 dollars. And paying off that 50 grand in, like, somewhere around, like, 20 to 24 months.

Wow. Good for you. Thank you. Yeah. If I if I never would have budget or plan that out and actually stuck to it, hit the 42 piece again, like, actually sticking to something and attack that that that aggressively.

By actually planning out how it was going to do that, then I don't think I remember would've accomplished that.

And and that's something that I think a lot of people today constructing They get stuck in the idea that, you know, they make a certain amount of money, and then they distribute their money, but they don't distribute it wisely.

And so they get stuck you know, paying for all these big things and enjoying their life, but then they have this, like, vast amount of debt or the expenses that are building up into that type they'll actually do what they wanted to.

So I would say, but just help me set the foundation for for financial freedom and also helped me in my life and so forth, how I manage my time.

Oh. If I know where my money is going, then I usually, my money goes to where I pour most of my time.

So, like, the donations I give to my church, and then hopefully stay in fact, with that community, the money that I put into real estate keeps me focused on that.

When I invest it into different types of stocks, then I go into researching that, crypto, all that. Usually, where my money flows is is where my time is also flowing in.

And those investments, not only are they financially, but but there were some investments in in understanding the I I guess to say, like, the the the stream of income that that that I'm putting them in.

Oh, sure. It also sounds like it's an investment in yourself too.

As you sort of grow through the process and better understand how you want to allocate your money, your time, your resources, whatever to just give yourself the opportunity even for a better future, if not an actual 1.

Yeah. Yeah. Man, that's And imagine, you can click. Wherever somebody pulls their money into, you can totally see like what they actually genuinely care about.

And I mean, because, obviously, I think, that's like that's your main resource that you have there is this is is the paycheck that you get. So whatever you're pouring into definitely have to have some type of emotional connection to it.

Sure. And I think it actually tells a lot about a person. And if somebody budgets their their money wisely, I think it's just overall. It helps them drop life.

I I could just, like, spend whatever I wanted in that care. But III would say most people that do that don't really get ahead in life. Well, maybe over the the grand scheme of call it dynastic or generational wealth, maybe not.

But I a lot of people prefer it, and they're they're happier that way. You know? You just wanna enjoy life, have the money they have, take care of their needs, and then spend it on their wants, and enjoy life.

So I don't know if there's anything I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but it certainly isn't gonna help mitigate your worries and concerns after a few decades of plenty.

Eventually, the grain runs out. Yep. Yeah. But, Ruben, I understand you gotta go. I appreciate you taking some time and setting aside this morning to talk. This this conversation, I think, has a lot more depth.

We can we can hit and hopefully, in a future episode, we can come back to some of these topics. But for the time being, I don't wanna keep you. I really appreciate your time and and the opportunity to have this conversation.

So first off, thanks for thanks for coming out and making the time. No problem. Thank you for that. Yeah. No problem at all. We'll stay in touch. I I appreciate it.

And for all of our listeners, to I guess, get more involved in in some of these things that Ruben's getting involved with, whether it's actually, 1 thing we didn't even touch on was the Patriot Empire Institute They they have a lot of things a lot of cool things going on helping veterans transition out of the military and sort of enduring projects there, which really ties into pillar church and the Association of Church is the Pretoria project Pretorian project.

But I assume this Priturian project you can find online as well? Got it. If you actually go online, just Google Preturian project or just Google any link, pillage, or Priturian project, top.

So you can look to 1 of the church links and then you can look at the Pretoria project. Again, association of churches specifically set up around Marine Corps installations.

So the idea here is that if you leave 1 church in like Jacksonville, then you have community that you can immediately connect with in, like, Okinawa or in San Diego.

Yeah. I like that. So you have people that you can immediately reach out to so that you have a base for that transition. Sure. Because that that's gonna help breed consistency too and and overall well-being, I think.

But, yeah, I don't wanna tie you up, man. I really appreciate you taking the time out. So we'll stay in touch, man. We'll try to get you onto a a future episode.

I appreciate it. Sounds good for you. Thank you. Alright. Hey, everybody. This porter with SD YT the podcast. When we're talking about spending time with your family and even remembering loved ones, maybe when you can't be there.

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So go enjoy. Alrighty, folks. I appreciate you taking the time to stop in. We talked about so many different things there with Ruben this particular episode.

If you have questions, if you have insights, if you have experience, if you have even related topics, that you want to cover, send an email. Survival dad y t at gmail dot com will talk about it.

If you want to be on an episode, if you want to be interviewed, you can send a message, Facebook page, Instagram, there's all sorts of options to get in touch with us, and then we can talk a little bit further about it.

The Pretorium project pretty neat.

I've talked to a lot of marines and and service members in general trying to find churches when they get to a new area. So maybe that'll help you out. And if it does, Well, then I'm glad we we could fulfill that need for you.

But we're talking about the consistency of Taking strides, taking initiative to build into your own habits of action, your own habits of thought, whatever that happens to be. It can be free.

But even if it starts free, it can turn into a way to generate income, whether it's actual financial income or income to better your spirit, to better your mental health, to help your mentality, and overall just your perspective on life, which obviously in turn might help other people too.

And it it pays forward and it compounds daily, which is always a good investment to find, especially when the risk is minimal.

Anyway, we'll get more into that other stuff in future episodes. But I really appreciate you guys stopping in. So again, to wrap this up, I'm Porter. I'm your host, and this is STYT the podcast.