You try to do something that is is outside of what you do, and I'm I'm not just talking about being stretched, but in this doesn't fit.

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Our theme for 20 22 is the character of your character. Who you see when you look your values in the mirror? Today, we're talking our October core values of authenticity, vision, and responsibility with mister Scott Carly.

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Alright, Scott. Welcome to the show. How you doing man? And I'm doing great. It's been a great week. I'm doing good. Good to be here. Thanks for inviting me. Oh, of course. Of course. I'm glad we can make this work out.

But now for the sake of the list, or since, obviously, they can't see you and maybe they don't even know who you are. Let's start with a little bit of relatability. Who is Scott Carly? So I I'm a speaker.

And a business coach, and I've been doing this for a long time, 20 years in the business world, I grew up in West Texas, I'm a native Texan, my parents are immigrants from Oklahoma, and they moved to Texas I was bred and born in Abilene, and I was born on Texas independence day, so I've got a lot of Texas pride and heritage, and and I made sure that my kids were bred and born in Texas as well.

But moved to Austin in o 3, and have been coaching and speaking for entrepreneurs and business owners to help energize their their business and overcome their obstacles.

That's pretty legit. And as I understand that you are actually the branded change energizer.

Right? Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Probably about 5 years ago now, I went through a rebranding because I I took a personality assessment called the fascination profile -- Mhmm.

-- and in it, it identified 2 of my top 7 personality advantages, 1 was innovation and the other 1 was power. Innovation is the language of creativity and powers the language of decision making.

The archetype was called the Maverick Leader, So I love that, and I owned it because the profile identified that as my natural characteristic, So when we personalized that, my coach, Matt Pollard, helped me, and we identified me as the change energizer, which just exactly describes how the world already thinks about me.

I mean, if people could buy my energy, bottled it up and buy my energy, they would. That's who I am. I'm I'm a change energizer. You know, I think every superhero's got a pretty cool origin story and I like that 1.

But 1 thing that you mentioned, you said you had a coach, but like you are a coach. Why would you have Like, why do you ask for help? You know what I mean? You could do it on your own.

Yeah, that's a I'm I'm glad you asked that, because I think it's really important for every person they have somebody that they look up to and as a mentor and helping them along the way. Anybody who thinks, oh, I know at all.

I can read a book and know it all. That's not somebody I wanna follow. I have areas that I need I need to be stretched in, I need to be pulled up, I need my thinking to be challenged, and I need people to to see another side of me.

Tiger Woods, he's the greatest of all golfers. Tom Brady. He's the greatest of all quarterbacks.

They both have coaches. Yeah. Now in your case, though, starting to sort of self assess and figure out what you have to offer, what you bring to the table, what obstacles you faced, what lessons you've learned.

I'm assuming is where you started before you began helping other people and giving advice.

Right? Yeah. That that's exactly right. And really, if you look around, you find that a lot of people who are experts in something, usually had to tackle that problem.

So, there's a couple of things that came into play, in my past history, I was a pastor, in that in our church, I was having to produce like, you know, a Sunday morning message a Sunday night message, a Wednesday night lesson, and some kind of leadership lesson that's 4 of 5 presentations a week.

Yeah. And so time management was a big deal.

And learning how to manage my time and manage my resources and make sure that I had the energy and the creativity to do all of that, you know, not to mention, you know, God's helping me with all of that because, you know, that's what it's all about.

But time management was a big deal.

And and learning to manage that, well, my marriage went through a train wreck, and so went through a divorce. And and when that happened, I had transitioned into the business world out of the ministry.

I'm still active in the ministry somewhat, but as far as a full time position, And so a lot of those things required big changes in me, changes in who my target market was, changes in the product that I was delivering, changes in how I was gonna market to people, and what my product was gonna look like, as I worked through my own process and and came up with just tons of tools and tons of answers and how to overcome those problems, that's how I help people today.

I help people that are in transition, whether it's a transition from a crisis, or just to transition to the next level, they wanna go from good to great, or they wanna be going from great to exceptional.

Mhmm. You know, it's funny that it's not funny, I guess, that's kinda rude.

But when you had your divorce, I've I've been divorced too and it creates a lot of opportunities, I guess, for either, depression to set in, confusion to set in, you get angry, you get worried, you get concerned, how can I pay for all this stuff that I didn't even realize was mine, you know, whatever?

And then and then you've got to find a way on top of that to move forward from that, you know, to have some sort of progress as a human, like, in in your own life.

And I'm curious, you said you went basically at that point around that time frame from the ministry into business. Right? But how did you determine which direction you were gonna go?

What what influences did you rely on? What did you use to develop your vision then? That's a great question. So there's there's several things, you know, as I think back through it, in the ministry, I did a lot of leadership training.

Mhmm. And, you know, John Maxwell was a is an author that I read a lot of his books, but there are a lot of other books.

Steven covey, 7 habits of highly effective people, and when I when I transitioned into the business world, you know, I'm thinking to myself, okay, Scott.

For years, you've been training leaders in the church world. Well, what's different about the business world?

Churches are really a mom and pop business, unless they get to be a large thing, and then they're a corporate entity, they're just businesses and I don't wanna trivialize the spiritual side of that because that's important, but they're businesses.

Sure. I ran a business, I rent a I built a 13000 square foot worship facility, and that's a that's a business. And so, when I made that tradition, I thought, okay, Scott, what do you know how to do?

You know how to train leaders to lead groups of people and to manage their priorities and stay focused on what's important, income producing activities or whatever it is.

And so, I I took 7 habits of highly effective people. I turned that into how I was gonna help people. That was my initial pivot. And that's what I got branded for and known for all over Austin.

Was, you know, I'm the guy who can help you tame that wild mustang of time and and get focused on income producing activities, So that's where I got started, and then over time, I just discovered that I have some other gifts and some other talents, and I just begin to build on those.

Until in the last few years, I've discovered the ones that I'm really good at, and I've kinda dropped some of the others off, and I just stay focused on this.

The ones that you're really good at, you said you discovered overtime through different call them challenges, call them obstacles, call them events or scenarios, but you discovered them as you went.

Have you found that those ones that in your words you're really good at those things Have you found that those are really just more natural to you or you're just really good at because you were interested in putting the work to learn how to do them better?

A lot of that discovery came a few years ago, about 5 years ago when I rebranded. I went out to Sally Hollyhead's fascination profile, in it, it talks about that all of us have 7 natural giftings -- Mhmm.

-- and the top 2 7 or what we should really focus on. And the last 1, what she describes as your dormant advantage, is the thing that you're least gifted in.

And when you work in that, you can do it, but you feel like you're in quicksand. But your top 2 advantages are things that you could do with your eyes closed, your hands tied behind your back, they are your naturally gifted advantages.

Well, when I went through that and then I became a little bit of an associate, begin to realize that that was absolutely true.

Innovation, creativity comes to me naturally. Mhmm. When somebody presents a problem, and we start talking about, Scott, what am I gonna do?

I just have a natural gift of innovation and creativity to come up with solutions about how you can fix that problem. My second advantage is power, and that's the the language of authority and decision making.

I don't struggle with making decisions. I make decisions quick, I make them fast, and right or wrong, I make them, and most of the time, they're pretty good decisions, not always, but most of the time.

Mhmm. And so those are things that just come naturally to me, and they are the things that people recognize already about me, and so they come to me and say, hey, Scott, I got a problem.

Would you help me? Hey, Scott, we need a decision on this. Would you help us make a decision? And so now, that's what I I focus on.

I focus on those 2 things. It just draws the people to me who naturally need those 2 things out of me. Great detail here, but you make a living off this. Right? Like, it's not like you have a day job and this is your hobby. Oh, no.

That's that's how I make a living. Yeah. Okay. So there's something to be said for 1, being able to incentivize and turn your gifts into income production but I think what I'm really latching onto though is it didn't start that way.

You know, it still took some legwork at least critically to think of who you are, what you bring to the table or ultimately whatever anybody else season themselves that they bring to the table. Yeah. That's exactly right.

And again, part of what I I do for people now is I helped them figure out what problems in the world they naturally saw, and a lot of entrepreneurs if you ask them why they're in business, you know, they'll say, well, you know, I you know, I'm a commercial realtor, and I help people, you know, get into the buildings that they need to be in or, you know, what what whatever it is that they do.

Again, I'm a financial advisor, and I sell people life insurance, or I help people to prepare for their future.

In reality, a lot of them have a real vague understanding of the problem that they solve, and over the a period of time, I have become more and more clear about the problems that people have that I can solve.

And then I help them figure out what problems they solve.

And when you're clear about the problem that you solve, and what that solution looks like, man, the super highway just opens up, and people start coming to your door because now you're you know, you're advertising the things specifically that you help people do.

There's a lot of trust in that.

Like, it's it's a lot easier to trust people or trust businesses when they've clearly identified. Look, here's what I know my strengths are. Here's how I've identified my weaknesses and I don't focus on those.

So if you want help in these things come to me, you know, and that that clarity I think is appealing because there's a little bit of an allure, a certain appeal I think to to seeing people that have self confidence that understand when how and why they get distracted and they're still able focus on their vision.

They can still maintain an authentic sort of genuine sense of themselves without getting distracted.

Have you noticed that is a sort of common trend? Oh, definitely, distractions are always there to pull us away from what we need to to stay focused on. Now, as we're talking, there's a there's a story.

May I share a story with you about some of that? Yeah, please. So I was invited into a a conference call to discuss me coming in and doing leadership training for a a local chamber of commerce.

And a lot of chamber of commerce just they they do a thing, you know, called leadership, Austin, or leadership, whatever the city is, and it it wasn't Austin proper.

But, anyway, they called and said, hey, Scott, we understand you do leadership retreats, and so we want you to you know, tell us what a leadership retreat would look like.

And I said, okay, well, how long do you want it to be? Oh, just about a day and a half. We don't we don't wanna do very long. So, okay, well, I'm used to 3 day retreats.

If you wanna do it a day and a half, you know, here are some things that I can do, and, you know, we're gonna do some things on your super powers, find out what natural advantages are, we're gonna talk about your limiting beliefs, the crazy ideas that you have that are limiting what you're able to get done, Now, we're gonna talk about your obstacles, and and how to embrace your obstacles, and and what you need to do with that, and I can do all that in about a day and a half, and then we can plan some projects.

If you've got a big scary audacious project, you know, we can build a a framework for what that is and how to take action on it, and they said, oh, okay, is that all?

And I said, that's a lot for a day and a half. Well, we were hoping that you would go outside and do some obstacle courses or something, and I said, obstacle courses, Yeah, this is a leadership training.

We wanted you to go outside and do some, you know, some ropes games, and some obstacle courses, and get them outside, and moving, and Don't you have something to do interaction?

And I said, yeah, we do a lot of interaction inside going through those limiting beliefs and your super powers and you know, dealing with obstacles, but you don't take them outside in a ropes course, in an obstacle course, and I said, no, that's that's not my style.

Okay. Well, that's really what we're looking for, because we need a leadership course. At the end, I said, you know, I I really wish you well. I am not the guy.

I'm not the guy you're looking for. If you need somebody who is gonna teach you a few things, and then take you outside, and do some ropes courses, and some obstacle courses and things like that, that's not the way I do it.

And I wanna tell you, it is really great when you can know yourself well enough to say what you're asking for is not what I do.

Mhmm. When you try to do something that is is outside of what you do, and I'm I'm not just talking about being stretched, but it just doesn't fit.

You're doing the wrong thing. You're you're breaking your core values. There's a part of me that's disappointed that I didn't get the opportunity to work with that group, but there's another part of me that's relieved.

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You're doing the wrong thing. You're you're breaking your core values, there's a part of me that's disappointed that I didn't get the opportunity to work with that group, but there's another part of me that's relieved.

Because we were going down 2 separate roads. I would not have satisfied their expectations.

That's fine, because I don't think their expectations were the best anyway. Well, right. Otherwise, you would have aligned more closely with them, I assume. Yeah. You know, Robert Frost wrote about the path less traveled.

He talked about taking the high road, which I think in a lot of groups or discussions or depictions is sort of in terms of morality, but another aspect of that sort of similar to what you just described is maybe also in agents to yourself.

Once you've identified who you are, who you wanna become or like in our case on this podcast, the character of your character, that you're better able to identify, well actually, it's okay if I take this path on the left when everybody else goes to the right.

Because, you know, it's more fulfilling, it's more authentic. I'm gonna appreciate it or learn more or whatever, but it's more true to who I am. I don't have to follow the crowd.

That goes the same direction, you know, and obviously there's some spiritual implications there and other sort of allegories that have been tied into the path less traveled but he right it's a powerful position to be in.

You said leadership training, a few different times and you tied that to Rob's course and whatever in your story.

But how do you define leadership? So, a leader is a person of influence, and sometimes that comes because you have a position, and your title says, c e something, or the leader of something, but leadership is influence.

And when people are looking straight at you or out of the side of their eye at you, they're looking to you for leadership, that means that they're looking for somebody to show the way.

Mhmm. Somebody to to guide and and help figure out where we're headed. That's leadership.

So I do a lot of leadership training. You know, I do a 3 day retreat called the We did it, break the retreat. Yeah. And and a lot of that is leadership to help people push their big scary audacious dream across the finish line.

They need leadership in making decisions, leadership in clarifying, really what that scary audacious dream is, leadership and overcoming and identifying limiting beliefs, and that's what I do.

I I don't do things for people I leave them and I show them how to take the bull by the horns and do it themselves.

You know, I think it's oversimplified to say that leaders lead people, but conceptually, there's a lot in there. It's sort of a loaded statement. I'm pretty sure it was even in 7 habits of highly people if I remember right.

In the beginning, he talks about how I think they're walking in a jungle or something in a path Somebody's guiding them down the path, sort of acting as the leader.

Somebody's up in the trees, figuring out, hey, are we in the right jungle?

I think everybody's got a little bit leadership potential, but their comfort level, their confidence level, their ability to embrace that as an obstacle, maybe is just too much, or maybe it doesn't fit who they are authentically, but you mentioned obstacles and that's where I wanna roll into real quick.

Personally, when I hear obstacles, I think superficial things first. Optical is not enough money. Optical is no opportunity to spend the money I have.

The obstacle is I don't know anybody that can help me. Right? But it's all sort of superficial things you can work through. 1 of the things I got from what you just explained though is that an obstacle can also be in your head.

Things you just gotta process and work through. How often have you seen that that is more the case than money or time or friendship or social support groups?

A lot. A lot of the problems that people face are between their ears. Mhmm. And, you know, that's been discussed through a lot of different metaphors and vernaculars over the years.

I think it was Zig zikler who used to call it stinking, thinking, and, you know, people have obstacles in their head and in their minds.

Now, I've been introduced to the the phrase, the term limiting beliefs, And I I find that there are people who meeting people who have limiting beliefs about what we can do and and what the possibilities are, and oh my God, this is the end of the world.

We might as well just, you know, burn the ship, and it's over.

Part of what I try to do is that to help people come through that process of thinking things through. I've got a good friend and his tagline is, he's the wicked problem solver.

And I can't steal his tagline, but I'm a problem solver because of my innovative creative activity when somebody brings a problem and they're stumped, they don't know what to do next, I have that natural gift of creativity, they may not have that natural gift, that doesn't make them bad, or stupid, or an idiot, they just don't have that, and the quicker people can realize I don't have that creative, innovative, natural skill.

I need to hire somebody else, That's why, as a coach, I have coaches because there are areas that I'm not gifted in. Natural creativity is something that I can bring to the table and help people.

And here's something that I've also said that falls along with your your question and your statement is, If you don't have the competence to do something, borrow my competence for a little while.

Because I have the confidence that this can happen. And if you don't have the confidence, just borrow mine, and leave here saying, Scott believes in me.

Scott believes the change energizer believes I can do this. And I have found that many people, they'll borrow my faith, borrow my belief, until they get their own.

And once they get their own, that's part of what taking action, taking action is a physics formula that releases energy in the miracle.

And when people, if I can if they can borrow my confidence to take action, then the magic begins to happen.

Maybe for another discussion, but that's a physics formula of potential energy versus kinetic energy, and kinetic energy is just simply defined as energy on the mood.

I like that. But before we get into a little bit more of, let's call it, philanthropy of your character. Let's take a break for a couple minutes, and we'll be right back on transacting value.

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And vision and taking responsibility and and ownership but also having a little bit of humility to ask for help to get through obstacles and find out who you are as a person, what you bring to the table in order to lead yourself and lead other people into success through varying levels of achievement.

And the last thing we talked about before the break was the philanthropy of your character. But first, Scott, welcome back, bud. How you doing? Hey, man. It's great to be back. You're ready to be alive and be at work. Yeah.

Well, 1 out of 2. But, yeah, I know. I I agree. And to that point, the last thing we were talking about was being able to give of yourself what you have. Right? But if you don't know what you have to offer as a person, not financially.

Right? But as a person, you can't really give it to anybody. So that's the philanthropy of your character that we were talking through before. And it's not just about what you bring to the table.

Sometimes you got to identify sort of like Simon Scenic says, I guess too, but it almost has to start with why would you do these things. Like what do you have to offer to achieve something or break through an obstacle?

But more importantly, on the days where you don't wanna get out of bed, why do you continue doing it? As I understand it, you've got 6 triggers for big achievers.

I think I saw it was called. Let's talk about those a little bit. What do they mean to you and what are they? I started looking around at at some people who or what I considered big achievers.

They had had done some really incredible things. Why? You know, what triggered them? Why did they do the things that they did that were exceptional? And some of these are really famous.

Some are not very famous. But I I tried to take a look at them and say, what is it, and I couldn't find 1 thing, you know, we like to know, okay, this here's this 1 thing, that, you know, makes people do what they do.

Mhmm. And as I looked at it and and just tried to be as authentic as possible and and not put them into a box, there were about 6 themes that began to appear.

And they can be from anybody like, you know, Tiger Woods that is just a, you know, 5 time masters champion, And that's incredible, Tom Brady, who is considered now greatest of all time quarterbacks and winning 7 Super Bowls, having gone to 11 out of a 21 year history, I mean, what triggers -- Yeah.

-- these people to do exceptional things?

And then I started taking it out of the clouds down into just actually people that I knew or were a little bit closer to, and so I came up with with 6, 1 of the triggers that cause people to get out of bed and drive them to work long hours or whatever it is, give almost sacrificially is excruciating personal pain.

Mhmm. Failure. Fear of failure. Thinking of a a lady right now, her name is Christine Moore, and she wouldn't mind me sharing her name at all.

But Christine, she's a great lady. She got into drug addiction, and she had a beautiful family children and husband, but she got into addiction.

That addiction almost took everything away from her. I'm not sure if she went to jail, but she lost a lot of things with her family, almost her kids, Christine got sober, and she got off of drugs.

She started doing TikTok videos and other videos and speaking, got into public speaking, to help people get over addiction.

And she knows what it's like when somebody's in the middle of that, and they're teetering or going back, her trigger is the excruciating pain that she went through, and it motivates her to get up and help people not go through that same pain.

That's the way it works for some people. Yeah. I'm thinking of right now, what we call starving artist, a very successful artist, who now has hundreds of followers that come to her every every week to get information.

And when I ask her, Kelly, what is it that makes you you know, get up and do the things that you do.

She said, because I was literally a starving artist living out of my car. And that's an excruciating pain that I don't want anybody to have to deal with.

So anyway, that's 1, excruciating pain. Yeah. Number 2 is I have a dream. You know, there there are people that that have this dream, that have this vision of how things could be, and that's Martin Luther King.

Martin Luther King was driven by a dream and a vision, and it it got him up, it got him out, it it got him to to assemble people together in in non violent protest and peaceful marches, because he had a dream that a white man and a black man could sit side by side on a bus or any other place, you know, we've all met people and and they have a dream, they have a dream of something coming together, it lives in them, it is the trigger that gets them going and so that's the second 1.

The third 1 is a calling, and that's where I fit in.

You know, you don't choose the ministry, the ministry chooses you. And when I was in high school, that's what happened to me. The ministry chose me, and it was my calling, it was my purpose. It was what I was supposed to do.

I sold my pickup to pay the down payment on my college tuition, and and went to college. And when I got out of college, I became a youth pastor down in LA, and then I became an evangelist, and I traveled to 47 states, Jeez.

As an evangelist for a 10 year period dragging my wife and a trailer and preaching everywhere and teaching workshops, overcoming tons of obstacles because it was a calling. It's what Scott Carly is supposed to do.

It's what I mean, that that's why I'm here. And it's why I'm here now to change energizer. My calling is transition to the business leaders and entrepreneurs, they help them overcome their their obstacles.

Mhmm. The fourth 1 is I'm proving something. Yeah. And there there are people that fit into that category and there's nothing wrong with it, and Chuck Gaeger's 1 of them.

And Chuck Gaeger, I think it was in 19 48. He was a guy who broke the sound barrier. Yep. And he was the young fighter pilot that the air force brought in and said, you know, we're gonna we're gonna use you.

To test the, you know, the x 1 rocket, and and they put him in that thing, it took him 9 times to break the sound barrier, 9 times before he finally broke it, but he was proving something.

There are some people, that know something is out there, and they've got to prove, Einstein may have been 1 of those. Einstein proved the theory of relativity, proved some things by his calculations and understanding.

That was his trigger. The fifth 1 is I love this 1 too. The fifth 1 is, and you've heard this 1, there's got to be a better way to do this.

K? Yeah. And, you know, a lot of us maybe relate to that. But there are 2 people that I think and 1 of them from history, and that would be Christopher Columbus.

Christopher Columbus said there has got to be a better way to India. And I'm gonna get on a ship, and I'm gonna sail, and I am headed west because I know that the earth is round, and there's God to be a better way to India.

And he discovered discovered America. He's 1 of those, whether you contend with that argument or not, but the other 1 is Bill Gates, Bill Gates worked just like the rest of us in the day, and our computers was dos.

And so when we would get up and start our computer, we had to type in codes to go to different programs and -- Yeah.

-- and every time we go to a different program, we'd have to type in a code and go to it and we couldn't run 2 or 3 at the same time.

I was It was it was terrible, but it's all we knew. Mhmm. The gate said, there's got to be a better way to do this, and he created windows.

That was his driver. That was his trigger. There's got to be a better way. Now, the last 1 that I came up with is a double edged sword, but it's still there.

Number 6 is bounty, greed, or power. It is just true that some of the things that drive people is because of the bounty, the money that's in it, Oh, man, there's money, and I am going after it.

Just grieve, pure grieve. They want more. And or power, and I've always said, if you wanna find out what's really in somebody, give them money or power, and you'll discover what's in them.

And there are people who, when you give them that, you discover that there's philanthropy, there's goodness of heart, You know, Danny Thomas is 1 of those.

I mean, and he and him creating the Jude Children's Hospital out of of the bounty that he had, the 40 niners who who went to California after the gold rush or went up to Alaska, you know, after their gold rush, and the oil discovery So, there are some people who do that with good intentions, and there's others like Enron, and other corporations that have just stolen from people, but that was what drove them.

It wasn't a good driver, but it it was there. They did achieve quite a bit. Yeah. They did achieve quite a bit, and Mary Barah, right now, I don't know if you know who she is.

Mary Barah, is the the CEO of GM. And she joined in the finance, got a degree in finance and joined, and through the years, worked her way up, now she's running the show.

But she realizes that electric car industry is where the world is headed, and a few years ago, she shut down 7 plants, up in Michigan and some other places, Ohio, I think, because she had to retool those with the electric car energy and electric car future.

True. Yeah. Yeah. And 1 of the cars that she rode out, she's smart, was not just the Bolt, the little electric Chevy, you know, prius kind of thing, but it was a hammer.

Do you know that? I didn't. The electric hammer, because she was appealing, I suppose, to men or people of power who wanted a big electric vehicle.

I just think that's cool. And I think that her her motives were were good and right, she knew that That's where the industry was headed, and she wanted to dominate it.

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Yeah. History is gonna tell how things play out in the end, but all things considered. I think all 6 of those triggers are rarely going to be exclusive within 1 person.

You know what I mean? I think there's gonna be combinations of those to be effective. I agree. Yeah. Depending on depend well, ultimately depending on who you are as a person, works for you, what doesn't.

But but you're right. You know, once you start getting a little bit of power or a little bit of money in scale to whatever your baseline is, things change inadvertently usually, but things change.

Yeah. I I identified those 6 triggers. And as I've shared them with people, we all agree that sometimes those are phases.

You may start with 1, you may move to another, and you may end up even in the third 1. Sure. But, god, I agree with your thoughts on that. Yeah. Isn't that cool, though? It really is. 6 those 6 triggers? It really is.

And when you think about it, I mean everybody even that you listed, not in any particular order, but from Martin Luther King to Chuck Yeager to currently even now, like you said, Mary Barra at GM, we're talking over decades.

And in some cases, you could apply this to over centuries.

And more importantly globally. You know what I mean? So there's a lot of ambiguity in how these things or why these triggers worked. But it's almost ubiquitous in the fact that they have worked.

That's right. And there's there's something to be said for continuity through nature and time. Well, you you had mentioned earlier, you you asked about character, and I think character is reflected in some of those 6 triggers. Mhmm.

Yeah. So how how I've been trying to qualify this? Because it's a sort of ambiguous topic, values, character, you know, it's not like it's a specific period of instruction at a school, for example, because it's tough to talk about.

But if your values act as your guide, maybe your morals are sort of pushed on you based on the society you live and this fear of influence around you, but your character is who you become as a result of those things.

It's what you stand for, it's what you're able to to be.

Why these people, for example, that you listed or yourself even, are able to achieve all of these things in your in your twenties, all the way up to a 13000 square foot facility, that doesn't just house 1 person.

We're talking a lot of people. On a recurring basis, you know? And how were you able?

Why were you able to achieve those things? I'm sure some of these 6 triggers apply in your case let alone whatever you were able to bring to the table in your character, in your presence, in your energy in the room.

I I think there's a lot to that and you've proven it just by hearing your story.

Now before we get to the end of this interview though, I wanna jump into our last segment of the show. It's called developing character, developing character.

Ready? I'm ready. Alright. So here's how it works. I'm gonna ask you 3 questions and they're all about your value system. So the first question we're looking in the past. Okay? How do you now view your values from 20 years ago?

What about values? I started off as an evangelist, which meant I traveled from church to church and helping churches to grow, Back then, I was I was having to form the value of it's not about me, it's about what I can do to help them.

I can remember my my pastor 1 time when I was struggling to get things going and, you know, getting the appointments that I needed as an evangelist.

He told me, put his hands on my shoulder, he looked me right in the eye and he said, Scott, you have to learn how to promote your ministry without promoting yourself. I've never forgotten that.

I shamelessly promoted my ministry, my calling, what I could do to help, what I bring to the table, and, you know, here's a problem that you've got, here's a solution that I can bring, I may not be the smartest, through the best, through the wisest in the box, but here's what I can bring to the table.

It took me years to really cultivate that, inform that, and I I probably struggle with that from time to time. My values today are a stronger version of that value back then.

Even today, before this interview, I said, God, how can I help them today? Mhmm. What is it that you want me to say or do that can bring good. And I just have to remember that. Yeah.

Yeah. I agree. Sometimes it's difficult talking about what you have to offer without promoting yourself. So it's a definite balancing act for sure. But that takes us right into our Number 2 question. You now were talking presently.

What are some of your values? I've been given gifts. And it is my responsibility to share those gifts to help people if they want them. Mhmm. And so, I look for people and I look for opportunities to share those gifts.

When I recognize it, not everybody wants that, it's not about me. It's it's about them, and they're either not ready, or they made a different choice, but it is it is still, you know, my core value to I'm here to help people.

1 of the things that this this year when I I do a thing called a declaration of success.

It's something I write down every morning about, you know, what I'm gonna give and and then what I wanna receive in exchange. But my my keyword for this year is generosity.

Mhmm. And it's instead of being tight fisted or or giving less, I wanna give generously with an open hand and give more. Because I'm I am discovering that if you will let it go, even more will come back to you.

Mhmm. Yeah. If you if you hold it tight, then you're you're you don't have an open hand. Things can't come back to you. Yeah. Generosity plays a huge role. And you know, especially today we hear on the news all the time.

Countries all over the world, how incivility is spreading faster than respect, or generosity, or arguably more positive values are, but being generous in any capacity can help to save that off a little bit.

We'll mitigate some of those effects. Alright. Yeah. I think it's commendable. I totally agree with you, but now question number 3. How do you now, sitting here today, view your values changing 20 years from now.

In the next 20 years, I'm gonna be on my way out. And so, what am I gonna leave behind? And my values now are a little bit less about collecting and a little bit more about giving away.

You know, I I teach a thing in my leadership, that when you find people, you don't just, you know, mentor them and empower them, but you teach them to duplicate the process.

Mhmm. And so that's that's part of what I'm trying to do today is give chunks of me and my my the gifts that have been given to me, the skill sets that have been given to me, to find people that I can take that baton and pass it on to.

That's my responsibility. I understand that when you die and you go to heaven, you're not picking anything with you. Very assessment.

And I wanna leave behind my assets but I also want to leave behind a part of all that I've learned. That's my responsibility. And whether that's in book forms or in recorded podcast or whatever form it's in, I need to leave that behind.

You know, digitizing our perspective like this on podcasts is far and away going to outlive what we're able to do or say or teach physically.

So first off Yeah. Some of my mentors are dead. They're dead. They're gone. Yeah. Their thoughts.

And their books and their tapes or whatever it is, they're still with me. Yep. And that that's exactly it. Right? Like, Matter of fact, I was talking to my son last night and he's not a fan of learning how to read. He's in third grade.

He's not a fan of learning how to read. He said it's hard. Did you write? Yeah. But it's the only way you're gonna learn how to be a person, you know? Sure. You can read audiobooks, but I agree I agree a hundred percent with that.

You know, it's I used to be an avid reader, now I'm an avid listener. Mhmm. I listen to Audible, and and I have the book in front of me. And I will be marking it up. If you if you see a book in my library, it's all marked up.

Yep. Because that's how I process learning. And I'm in book max your minds, where, you know, we we go through a chapter a week and I'm marking it up and digesting it That's how people have passed that on to me.

I have a responsibility to pass it on to them. I agree. For the sake of time though, for right now, we can talk more about this hopefully if you're interested on another podcast.

But -- Sure. -- to wrap this up, First off, thanks for playing developing character. But secondly, how do people get in touch with you? How do they follow you? How do they get in touch to to learn more for retreats?

Any and in every way you like to promote. What are their options? Well, thank you. So there's I'm really easy to get in touch with. If you go to Scott carly dot com, that'll take you to my website.

Once you get to my website, you can look at some of the stuff that I do whether I'm a key as a keynote speaker or my 3 day retreats or if you wanna get into a a coaching relationship, a lot lot of those things can be found there.

If you'd like to talk to me and just have a conversation with me, if you go to call the energizer dot com, you can book a call with me, and I'd I'd love to hear about your big scary audacious dreams, and the obstacles that are keeping you from them.

You can also find it at change energizer dot com. Mhmm. So either 1 of those, And let's let's visit. I'd I'd love to talk and hear your story. Are you on social media?

Twitter or Instagram? I'm on I'm on Linkedin. Connect with me on LinkedIn, please. Linkedin, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. Those are my 4 big ones. Alright. Well, so for everybody listening, we'll put those websites, all 3 of them.

Down in the description for this interview, we'll put that up on our social media pages to be able to see websites as well, and then links to Scott your social media profiles as well.

So anybody will be able to reach you through us as well. Right. Appreciate that. Of course.

Of course. It really is the least I can do for taking so much time to hang out and talk for a little bit. Alrighty folks. Well, thank you for listening in to our core values for Okto of authenticity, vision, and responsibility.

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