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I'm Porter. I'm your host. And in 20 22 now, we're talking character of your character. I got a special episode coming out this time. A buddy of mine named Micah Johnson, actually out of Georgia.

 

But I met this guy about 10, maybe 11 years ago now. Way back when he was in the navy, but we'll get to that later. The point of this is, we're gonna talk about real people, real values, their stories.

 

Okay? This one's got a lot. It's it's powerful. In my opinion. We got a lot of sensitive topics depending on who our listeners happen to be this episode. Just keep it in mind.

 

We'll be talking about some more serious things concerning cancer, but the whole appeal is is uplifting. It's not anything extremely graphic or alarming. Just to put that out there. If you are a new listener, welcome to the show.

 

If you're a continuing listener, welcome back. I really appreciate you guys and in, we're gonna talk about ambition and sacrifice, some reflection, and faith, love, and building solid character here with Micah Johnson.

 

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Again, I'm Porter. I'm here talking with Micah Johnson. Micah, what's up man? Not so much. Well, how are you doing? I'm doing well. I'm doing well. I feel like it hasn't been as long as it actually has been since we've seen each other.

 

But I think it's pretty close to 10 or 11 years now. I would say, I would, it hasn't been 10 years, because that was, I knew you on deployment. And that would have been, what, 20 12:20 13?

 

No, man. That was late 20 that was winter, 20 10:20 10? Okay. So I'm old. Gotcha for god, good stuff. Okay. So 22 in my bad. Yeah. Yeah. Got wow, that's crazy. Oh, wow. Wait a minute. This is 22. So we're talking 11 almost 12 years.

 

Yeah. God. Yeah. Old as dirt. That is dirt. Well, that is that's not first I've met dirt much older. Okay. Yeah. So you're you're in good company, I suppose. But no, man. I'm I'm glad you still got your sense of humor.

 

That definitely helps. Man, there's there's so much cool stuff. Like, we talked a little bit, obviously, before we started recording, make sure we're on the same page and sound checks and all that kind of stuff.

 

But all that aside, I I can't wait to hear I I just I can't wait to hear what you gotta say, man.

 

This is I'm I'm pretty excited about it. So I guess, let me just to you off here a little bit. Let's let's frame it then. So let's say over the last 12 years, tell me a little bit about your life.

 

If you wanna talk about cancer or faith in family and how you've changed and grown, it's it's pretty free flowing, man, but I guess here for the next couple minutes till I chime back in, you got the floor.

 

Yeah. Oh, goodness gracious. So let's see. If that was 20 11, gosh, I was still in the navy, doing all that kind of good fun stuff, and paying the bills and serving my country.

 

And, you know, I had a time there where I had gotten a little sick, didn't know what it was, I would brush my teeth, and in the morning time and started throwing up, this would have been, goodness gracious, probably in May, of 20 12.

 

So, yeah, 10 years ago at that time, after I knew you, our ship was bulletin board, and I went to went to medical on the ship, and they ended up into me to a ear nose and throat doctor and told me that I need to get my tonsils taken out, which is, you know, typically something you do when somebody's younger.

 

Like, they do that for young. Just because complications can happen. And needless to say, I went in, got my tonsils taken out, regular old procedure.

 

Got my tonsils taken out, woke up, and was talking funny, which is to be expected, and then it was a week later, excuse me, 7 days later, I started coughing blood, went to the emergency room, and they ended up pulling out they almost looked like black black berries, but they were blood clots out of the back of my throat that had formed up.

 

And the doctor asked why I was still talking like that. And I said, you know, I can't feel it back in my throat, can't can't feel parts of my tongue, like and the doctor was like, still, and I said, yes.

 

Ended up sending me off to another specialist, and ended up signing out that I had some nerve damage.

 

As they were removing my tonsils, but on the day that they took out my tonsils, 1 thing that we didn't know was that I actually pulled up tonsils had all these purple spots all over and found out that I actually had tonsil cancer -- Mhmm.

 

-- which was crazy. I mean, you know, they took it out and did a little did a little did a little radiation, and, you know, I was good.

 

But right after I got my tonsils taken out, actually, audition for American Idol. It was I was living in San Diego at the time and, you know, how the military give you those days leave for medical leave. Yeah. Sure.

 

And I had the 10 days and I was sitting there, and I was like, well, I was like, I can I can still say even though I'm talking kind of funny and drove all the way up to Dodge Stadium and auditioned in front of producers 3 rows before you actually see the real judges, and it's the real deal?

 

So long story short and ended up making it through the air. Audation, got on the show, made it to the top 3 -- Oh. -- got cut right before the live shows.

 

You know -- God. -- all that good stuff. And I said chicken fried by the Zach Brown band. That's my audition's phone. That was my that the chicken guy was my thing. I was like, oh, I ain't gonna sing about nothing else with food.

 

Love foods. So yeah. Fast forward from there. That was 20 13 that my episode aired. And let's see, so I joined the Navy, Cinco de Mayo, May fifth of 2009, and I was out May fifth of 2013. I did my 4 years.

 

Oh, yeah. I said I ain't gonna pay for college. Right? Yeah. Here you go. That was the whole sole purpose of being in the military. It's not my favorite college probably to go back. So, yeah, I mean, just living my best life then.

 

And shortly after that, if I fast forward to 20 17, I had gone back to going back to school, to be a dental assistant, did all the prerequisite classes, didn't get accepted into the program.

 

Am. I was, like, whatever. 20 17, I actually found out that I had throat cancer.

 

Jeez. And that was just I kick in the stomach, but they had actually warned me. They were like, if you have tonsil cancer or throat cancer, and you still have your tonsils, you're going to get it.

 

Like, that's just how that goes, and they actually were pretty much on the doc, they said, in next 5 to 5 to 7 years, it would happen, and that was 20 12 to -- Yeah. -- 20 17. It's probably the market value.

 

And, you know, I did that, and they actually I didn't need to I didn't have to do anything else. Say, I was put on a liquid diet and slowly introduced back in eggs and avocados and puddings and soft stuff like that.

 

But it was just Yeah. So you could heal up and Yeah. Because you and and, I mean, it's it's it's tough for a guy who likes to eat, like, ah, like to eat, guys.

 

So so to so to sit back and be like, oh, okay. So you've got 2 weeks of no eating at all. And I was like, okay. Like, I'll just have do other stuff, get my mind off of it, hang out with friends, go walk in, go play tennis, do something.

 

You know what I mean? To get my mind off of food. Or 2 weeks, and then slowly reintroduce. So I from there, goodness gracious, I don't know. I've just been working hot in jobs here and there. You know, it was my best life just doing me.

 

And in 20 21, I had a huge lump in the back of my arm, didn't think anything of it. In my arm, like, literally on the backs of my arm, and went to the hospital, when first get to the hospital, you know, it's 20 21.

 

So we're still in these wonderful COVID times, heavy COVID times at that. And I had gotten tested. Back in January of 20 21, I actually had COVID.

 

So I tested positive for COVID, trying to figure out what this lump is and then maybe back to my arm. And when I say it was a lump, I mean, it was the size of a freaking dinner roll in the back of my arm.

 

Like, was, it was pretty nasty. So that ended up happening, and this 1 a wonderful VA hospital had me in there for about I think it was 14 14 or 15 days.

 

I was there, and I had been there for about 4 days before they even decided to cut me open to look at what it is. Like, they kept pumping antibiotics and me trying to shrink it, and it was not getting smaller.

 

It was actually getting bigger. Oh, wow. Yeah. So it just became 1 of those things where I'm sitting there balling and sitting up there get out, they did the surgery, and I was awake for it.

 

You know, they just got a number to me in that spot and actually ended up having to cut a hole in my underarm pitch, to let it drain out because it there was a part of it that was an infection, and then it actually ended up being a tumor.

 

So when they pulled it out, I looked at it, they looked at it, and they were all looking at each other kinda funny. And I was like, okay. Somebody say something -- Yeah.

 

-- what is this? They drained at first and all that nasty yellow, because she grabbed, that you see in pimple popping videos. The stuff came out first, and then they pull it out and you're I'm sitting there.

 

And, you know, about about 2 weeks later, they came back. And from a biopsy, told me was cancerous. And I'm like, oh, okay. Cool. So what kind of cancer is this?

 

Armed cancer. Yeah. And it is 1 in a hundred and 81 males, has breast cancer, like, so when I say, you're talking, limb pickins, 1 in every 4 women will have breast cancer, 1 in every 4 women in America -- Wow.

 

-- will have breast cancer. 1 and every 881 males will have breast cancer. 881. 881 is the last the last statistic that I was told was 1 881.

 

Wow. So I'm not 1 in a million, but I'm 1 in 881. Boom. Jeez. So, yeah, from there, I had to quit my job, in June of 20 21, I was actually that was the first week of June. The first full week of June, I started chemotherapy.

 

I was actually with some folks from my church, we were going to church camp, and I'm actually doing oral chemotherapy, not the I just, man, if there's anything I don't want to do is be around other people who are going through this mess and have to be confined to a chair, you know, for 3, 4 hours a day -- Yeah.

 

-- 3 to 4 days a week. Like, that's just I said, give me the pills. Give me the pills. I'm not gonna sit there in a chair.

 

Like, I would rather have every symptom of a gray beard, you know, hair long, like, the stuff that still comes along with like, you know, it is his hair is hair, you know, especially the dudes. I mean, it'll come back hopefully.

 

Tell me tell me But but I'm just like, okay, so and I'm starting chemotherapy and in to starting that it's about 3 months in, I actually end up finding out, going to a bathroom, and my oncology actually told me she said, you're going to get sick, you're going to feel like crap a lot with the weather changing, with my weight, and just your joints with chemotherapy throwing up, taste going, losing hair, whatever it may be.

 

And She said, the only thing you'll ever need to worry about that I need to know about is if you are coughing up blood, pooping blood, blood, peeing blood, throwing up blood or having really bad nosebleeds.

 

But, I mean, everything else just comes along with the territory, mouth sorters, the general fatigue, at about 3 months into the chemo, maybe not even 3 months. Maybe it may have been a month and a half to 2 months.

 

I had gotten a new job answering phones, it wasn't going to be too stringless on the body. And I actually ended up going number 2, and having some blood in the toilet, so ended up having to go to the hospital again.

 

Oncologist said if it if it's like that in the morning time, then go, I went and a long story short, sat through some more scans and found out that I also had colon cancer.

 

On top of having breast cancer. Jeez. It has just 20 21 was a year to say the least. Oh, yeah. Unbelievable. I Yeah. Well, I I don't even know where's how are you feeling now?

 

They're just it's good days and bad days. I mean, some days I wake up, and I feel like crap, and some days I wake up, and I'm sore, but I'm okay, and I can do everything, and I'm good, other days, I just laid in.

 

So today was a good day, obviously. Well, all things considered then I I suppose you're you're still pretty lucky then to have made it through all of those things over the last 4 years.

 

I the tool that it must of taking mentally, emotionally, physically across the board. That's it says a lot. I mean, themes aside specifically about your character though, that's that takes a lot, man.

 

Good for you. Congratulations to to get to this point. Thanks. Wow. But I imagine having gotten through all of those things that that has to do something for your perspective.

 

Right? I mean, how I guess, how has it changed your perspective in on life, on people, on events, on whatever. But let's say, I guess, since, well, 20 17 to now, maybe. Yeah. For sure. I mean, perspective is a word right now.

 

I mean, you just never Like I was telling you before, it's just in the climate of the world that we live in now, you know, with everything being political this and because my nose lift, sniffle in the day, do I have COVID, or are you coughing?

 

Like, we, you know, can't go nowhere without a mask. And I don't mean to disrespect anybody in how they may deal on that.

 

I mean, like, that's completely up to you, but I promise you the the pettiness and all those things will completely make you change your perspective when you are, when you're sick like this, kind of sick.

 

And not to mention, I mean, like, that's a whole another aspect in and of itself. It's like even if I wanted to get back to navy, they're not recommending me get vaccinated because I'm going through chemotherapy.

 

Like, it's just certain thing. You know what I mean? Like, it's another thing. You know what I mean? Like, and people don't think about that, like when they say, oh, like, I'm high risk. Like, yeah, I'm high risk because I got lupus.

 

I'm high risk because I'm fat But I guess, while I'm really high risk, because I got cancer and I'm going through chemotherapy, like so it it's 1 of those things, but man, I'm just you. If if if god's going to take me, he can take me.

 

Like, that's where I'm at right now. Like -- Yeah. -- you know, you got to be people who are complete skeptic, and people who want to tell you how to eat this, and sugar's bad, it feeds the cancer.

 

I can I can honestly look anybody in the face? But guess what, though? If I die, there will be a cookie in my hand. It will not be a carrot.

 

Like, that's just completely where I go with people. And it may offend somebody. But I promise you, when your perspective changes and it's got a flip flop and you're living for something else, like, it's just where your mind goes.

 

Like, I'm not gonna be I mean, like, there's some people that I still hate in this world.

 

But there are things that I look at really today that like, gentlemen, people that I don't like, but there are people that I have literally come to terms with and say, anywhere fight you, man.

 

I love you. Just shut up, let me alone, like, what's sweet. You know what I mean? And that's where my mind's at.

 

Like life is too freaking short. When I see people dying. I mean, like, we all know. I'm pretty sure anybody listening knows somebody who they've known personally, face face or somebody in their family or or a friend who's had cancer.

 

Like a cancer don't care who you are, a black, white, purple, green, gay straight, boy, girl, 38, 48 or 8 years old.

 

I mean, like, it just don't care. So, I mean, it flips for you, man, like, to sit there and see a kid going through what it is you're going through and realizing, like, man, I'm not in school.

 

Like, man, I'm not trying to balance this, this, and this, like, I can't even fathom what it's like to be a 6 year old little girl.

 

You know what I mean? Or And just having people honestly reaching out to me and being like, hey, would you mind talking to my daughter? She's back cancer. Like, it just blows my mind, man. Like, there are kids going through this.

 

And yet, and it's 1 of those things too, like, I would have never thought at the disgrace just 23 years old the first time having cancer, that I would be sitting up here 10:11 years later, you know, on my fourth on my fourth cancer, legitimately with my fourth.

 

And it's 1 of those things, like, and then the perspective of, like, having a mom, my mom's had breast cancer twice, And she, when they found out that I had the breast cancer, they actually brought me in and they test you for, it's called a brat gene, And so it's only, it's only, obviously, typically, through women.

 

Like I said, the 1 in 881, and it's passed from mother to child.

 

So my mom, just with this, complete guilt. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, man, I'm having a cry on the phone with my mom and be like, I'm glad you're both, and I got it.

 

Like, and she's like, you know, and her feelings about it. But there's no other place for her to be, but or feelings about it.

 

Yeah. Like, she's my mom. Feels guilty. She feels like she gave it to me and, like, you know, I'm at I'm at a church camp the first week that I start with with a whole with probably 60 middle schoolers from my church.

 

And I'm just, like, sitting up there boo hoo and a grind, and they're like What's wrong?

 

I'm like, god, it's good for cancer, so much. Like like there's nothing in your mind. Like, I I don't care what anybody says. Like, I don't care how strong you are as a person or as a person in your face, like, guess what? This sucks.

 

Yeah. But your perspective on everything, on everything change is. Just because it's like, I'm gonna do this. I mean, if if you're gonna go sky diving I ain't doing. But I mean, like, it's just like, man, just live your life.

 

Yeah. It gets too freaking bored. Like, at the end of the day, it drives me up the wall, how people are about is the thing of almost feeling like people want to put you in a bubble, and I've never been like that.

 

Like, from the first time I found out that I answered, like, they gave me the option to let people on my ship know.

 

And obviously, my higher ups had to know, but they were the only once you knew. You know what I mean? Like when I was going to radiation therapy, like if they were the only ones who knew.

 

And nobody else in my shit knew they were like, why is Johnson good to go to? Why is Johnson going to another appointment? They're just like, my own my my own damn business. Like, you know what I mean?

 

Like, It's just 1 of those things like panic. And sometimes I'll say this, man, not having a community around you sucks, in times like this right now, like not having people loving on you caring for you just to talk to.

 

I mean, like, I have people who literally facetime me, They're like, hey, you haven't posted anything on Facebook in a week, like, are you okay?

 

Like, and sometimes I need those people because I I don't want to be in my head like that, like I I need to stay positive, but it's just when you -- when you're sitting here in this point, it is it's crazy.

 

Like, if there's anything that I can say, like nobody can ever, in this moment right now, make me feel in pretty belittled.

 

I had a, I say, with air quotes, a buddy from the navy who was messaging me. And say and hurtful things on Facebook just about my eating habits and telling me that, literally, telling me that I was going to die because of how I eat.

 

You posted something about this. I think I read this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Buddy, air quotes. And it was just it was hurtful, man.

 

Like, I remember waking up that morning, hugging the toilet, puking my guts out, crying and picking up my phone to, you know, scroll Facebook or whatever it was, or get on YouTube and just like reading what he wrote and just being like, how did you do this to another human being?

 

And it was solely because he knew somebody who had cancer.

 

And I'm like, man, if there's 1 thing that I got take this away from this complete experience because I was like, man, I'm going to do this and get sick and da da da da da da, and Yeah.

 

It it's happened. It happened as bad as certain people because I'm not hooked up to a machine every day.

 

Yeah. Boy isn't it? I mean, I'm just eating 5 pills of and every day, but man, my mom has always said, the same boiling water that hardens an egg, softens a potato.

 

And you have to think about like when we say, oh, people don't react to things the same way? Think about it like that, the same boiling water that hardens an eggs off a potato.

 

And my mom is as hard as a rock. She's a 43 year police at Atlanta veteran. You know what I mean? Right. Still to the day. She's 5 and still on the police force.

 

Obviously, she's not out there in in a police car running in 65. But I mean, like, it's just 1 of those things, man, like, when you are sitting here in this -- in this environment, it changes your perspective.

 

Yeah. So, oh, there. No. I I don't mind at all if you wanted to continue going. Let's Tell what, let's let's take a quick minute.

 

We'll take a break and process a direction we can take this. There's a lot stuff, man, that you just hit on and I wanna make sure we get it all into 1 set here without being broken up into into pieces.

 

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Alrighty, folks. Welcome back to SD YT at podcast. Again, I'm Porter. I'm your host. We're talking love, faith, family perspective with Micah Johnson. But the crazy thing is they're not just generalized values.

 

I I feel like Mica specifically. I feel like your perspective, it's not new necessarily. There's plenty of people that have been in your situation to 1 scale scope degree or another, but but it's unique because so let me let me back up.

 

If you're just joining the show welcome. If you're continuing, welcome back. What we were talking about before was how your perspective changes when you get cancer.

 

But Micah, in your case, That's 4 times now. That's 4 shifts in in how you're seeing the world despite all of its changes. On its own. And and and what that what that's taught you.

 

Like, the the the power that that has to shift your perspective But I think, more impactfully, in shifting your perspective, your ability to help other people and relate to other people and give other people hope and show other people that, you know, there's there's still a a self worth behind all of these things that can creep into your head, and and the inspiration that you've used it to become and turn into.

 

I I actually, let me just ask you, I guess. How does that make you feel?

 

Oh, man, you're sort of a you're an inspiration now to kids, adults, parents, kids, like, How how does that fit into your perspective now? Oh, I mean, you know, it it changes stuff. I mean, I I don't I never feel that way.

 

But, you know, like, it it it may be I I sing, obviously, and I sing at church a lot, and people are like, man, I was just boo hooing and crying, and it's like, man, I've I've been to that I've been to that point now.

 

Like, it's like, it could be a song that I've paying 5 times at church.

 

You know what I mean? But it's like now in my mind. Maybe I'm thinking about the words. They got thinking about what it is, you know, you know, more than I was, previous or since the last time I was sick.

 

You know what I mean? Like, it's just like, it hits a little different. It hits a little different now. A lot of stuff does. So how do you, I guess, taking that resonance? How do you how do you use that to relate to people?

 

You know? Like, I imagine in these wards, at least earlier on, before the the pill medication, that as you're getting chemo or treated or surgery or whatever, You see all sorts of people.

 

Different skin tones and perspectives and beliefs and orientations, ages, kids. You know, how do you how do you deal with that?

 

It it is I don't want to say that it's awkward, but it is it's different. Like, right What does that mean? So you say the word you say the word came cancer, but not everybody's cancer is the same. You know what I mean?

 

Like, you have people who are if you've got brain cancer, you're dying, like -- Oh. -- and the headlines. I see. You know what I mean? Like, so cancer is the word, but stages, you know, how you hear -- Sure or something.

 

-- I'm stage stage that, like, yeah, and I think I've met a little girl who I actually took her a shirt that had this special little saying on it that I liked, and I took that and I actually called her parents did not know them.

 

We work friends, air quotes, on Facebook, and I always saw her stuff recently about her, you know, going through chemo She's believe it or not, takes the exact same brand dosage of pills that I take.

 

Mhmm. And the morning, I met her she was pissy as can be. She didn't wanna meet this big black dude.

 

She was, like, who the heck is this at my house, and her mom was literally chased her around the house with a spoonful of Nutella and 5 of those bills, you know, covering, covering, covered with Nutella.

 

And it's just like, man, think about having a kid along with your other 3 kids that are and younger than her, and she's your middle kid, all the rest of them are boys, and you are loving all this little girl right now who is literally going through hell and back, like, and that's a perspective, like, that's a perspective that I've never been in.

 

I won't have kids, like, but I couldn't imagine.

 

I could not imagine having to be a child. Yeah. In her case, or number 2, be the parent of that child. And that's got to be hard, because my perspective with her is I wouldn't have put up with that.

 

I would not have, I don't know if I would have had the same resilience at 6 years old, as a first grader, that that little girl has, realizing having to grow up, like having to say there's something in your body that's killing you, not I'm in the first grade and I broke my arm, not I'm in the first grade, and I, you know, scratching my knee.

 

Yeah. Sure. Like, the common first grader things that are high up on the list, you know? Like, that becomes top of the list. I mean, they're earth shattering for a 6 year old, but they're not life ending for a 6 year old genetic.

 

Yeah. Exactly. Like vets, this is life a death that you have to now throw on to a, like, a 6 year old that is supposed to be talking about Santa Claus and the tooth fairy.

 

You know what I mean? Like, an Easter funny. Like, so it just they got real for her. Like, think about having to grow up like that. I don't know if I would have been ready for that.

 

Okay. You know, like, I'm still thinking about power pictures. Well, I mean, I'm still thinking about power rangers, but but alright. So now, you're in your let's just call it mid thirties.

 

And you're trying to relate to the 6 year old girl who's not yours, which is its own perspective. So what did you do? How did it go? You know, it was it was a good morning, it was it was rough.

 

Uh-huh. But, I mean, insightfully, when I say we are literally taking the exact same meds, the exact same dosage, and I'm 300 and you know, 50 something pounds and she was probably -- No.

 

I -- 25 pounds of soaking wet. Yeah. You know what I mean?

 

Like, I get it. Like, my joints hurt. From that, her joints hurt from that. She knows that those 5 pills are going to make her throw up again today. I know that these 5 pills are going to make me throw up again today.

 

But you, as a as a 6 year old, as a parent to that 6 year old, you have to say this making you feel like crap, is making you feel like crap, but it's also fingers freaking crossed that it's getting rid of that cancer too.

 

And you have to relate that to a 6 year old. As an adult, I say, this is going to make me feel like ish, and I get it, but I have to do it.

 

Yeah. You can, and so now imagine having to tell a sick year old child who only knows rainbows and unicorns and butterflies. Hey, little girl.

 

Take these 5 pills. I'm sorry. I know they taste nasty. Let me cover him up with Nutella and make you throw up the rest of the day, make your joints hurt the rest of the day, make you have mouth sores the rest of the day.

 

Like, no, I can't fathom that. It went well, but when I'll say that, when her mama said, he's going through the same thing you're going through. Her eyes opened up a little bit.

 

You know what I mean? That's cool. That's a cool moment. And it's like, she's like, who the heck are you? And why the heck is my mama still chasing me around with these frickin pills with new toe cover and elephant and stuff.

 

Like, Yeah. It was a rough morning, but I mean, I'm not 6. So I'm shoving them down with some water and going for what I know -- Yeah.

 

-- and I couldn't imagine. Like, it ended up being good. She took the t shirt and we took a picture that was she wouldn't smile within the picture, but it was okay.

 

That's kind of what makes it do, though. Yeah. Yeah. So it it was good. It was good. But I mean, like, she will probably look back on that when she's when when she's 34 and I'm, you know, 75. You know?

 

Yeah. It'll it'll be fine. Man. And I and I hope this to remember that because that was I actually ordered this shirt for somebody else who had really helped me, but I accidentally ordered a kid's medium instead of an adult medium.

 

And so when I told her, I was like, hey, I said, I know this little girl who's got cancer, that I see her parents on my Facebook feed all the time.

 

And man, like, I really just want to give this freaking shirt. And it was, I don't know if you've seen America's dot talent last year, that nightbird girl that was on there. She had cancer. She has cancer.

 

She's got, like, a 2 percent chance to live, but she actually has her own brand of shirts. And they say, you can't wait till life is easy. You can't wait till life's not hard anymore to be happy or something like that on the shirt.

 

It's just a great shirt and some albums. Like, man, let me get this to this little freaking girl. Like, she's she won't she probably won't even understand it.

 

Like, her parents showed her showed that showed her my audition and they showed her that girl Night Bird's audition too. And I mean, like, you know, they were like, oh my gosh, she was so happy like, I don't know why she's back.

 

I'm like, you're the spawn of the urge right now, but she was really excited. That's why she watched your audition. So it it was just it was just the time and I did it.

 

So, yeah, I mean, it went well. And so you saw them on your feet obviously, but then you reached out to them initially. Me? Yeah. I was actually messaging. I was not friends with her husband on Facebook.

 

I was reaching out to the wife, and I was like, man, this is gonna be kinda weird. And he was like, hey, can you call me right it. And, like, so the wife didn't answer, and I think this was over the course of, like, 2 days.

 

So I just messaged her husband My name is Matthew Johnson, and I'm friends with your wife on Facebook. Can y'all call me? And I was just like, can y'all call me?

 

Yeah. And they ended up calling me I told them, they were like, oh my gosh. Yes. So when they come in and I I rode out there, and they're actually kinda, like, from the area that I'm from initially growing up.

 

So it was it was cool. It was cool. I was glad to be able to do that for that little girl. And, you know, she she can appreciate it right now, and I get bad.

 

But 1 day she will. I I highly doubt it's gonna be something she'll forget. So Yeah. It's it's impressive, man. III really wish I I had something more to say to to keep hearing more about that story.

 

But I'm I'm processing all this for the first time, for the the listeners. I'm processing this for the first time as you guys are. So Let's let's let's let's roll into that then.

 

It's I think. When you get into any situation in life that involves some semblance of conflict internal based on internal factors. Internal based on external factors, external to external, whatever.

 

But when you get into some form of conflict to find a way to resolve it. Right? That's as a child, you learn those things, whatever they happen to be. And as an adult, you exemplify those things, whatever they were to you.

 

But I think that only really goes so far in my opinion, is to say that it gives you an ability to live for someone else potentially in like almost a worse scale degree to live for someone else.

 

But in your case, Micah, it sounds like it sounds like you started living for something else. For like a cause, like this inspiration we talked about, man, that's a powerful shift.

 

Yeah. I mean, it's Right now, it's like not realizing how this is affecting you I know how it's affecting me, but I don't realize how it's affecting other people.

 

Sorry, that was what I meant to say, is that completely right now, I'm learning that life is not about perfection, but it's about progression. Progressing in a certain direction.

 

And what I have to say, what I have to feel, what I have to say, what I have to give those things just mean something different now. Like, I don't know how to, there's no switch to flip. There's nothing that I feel like I've done it.

 

It's just that if it's like people know that you're going through something and they're paying attention to how you're living through that through that trial, through that struggle, You know what I mean?

 

And I mean, I'm just choosing not to be that guy.

 

I'm choosing not to be that 1 in the domes. I'm choosing to smile when I feel like smiling, I'm choosing to go out to eat, I'm choosing to freaking not wear a mask and just go to Walmart.

 

You know what I mean? Well, let me This is this is life. We're living it. Okay. Let me let me flip that around for a second. You made an interesting point.

 

That other people are seeing how you handle these trials, for example, whatever these trials are, but as a generalization, in your life and and learning or paying attention or or just being entertained, I guess, whatever applies in that moment.

 

But but I imagine and I I have no way of knowing, but I imagine in your specific circumstance, dealing with treatment, dealing with I'm sure all sorts of emotional mood swings that it's probably pretty easy to sucked into your own head on any given daily basis.

 

But have you found that you're maybe better able or just identifying in general with other people's perspectives a little bit more too.

 

Like like 1 of the things that that we discussed earlier, for example, was your mom. For the the listeners out there, we we can we can do a quick recap of your mom just for the sake of a of a sort of profile to keep this in perspective.

 

But she's on the police force and she's in her sixties, and she's also had breast cancer you mentioned earlier.

 

Right? Twice. Twice. And -- Yeah. She's raised you to be the man you are. However, you guys unfortunately have this now, cancer has a similarity. And you mentioned to me that that that the guilt that came with that.

 

I guess, in now you going through treatment and chemo and being able to empathize better with people that really before you didn't have anything in common with before about 10 years ago anyways.

 

Yeah. What what now has that done for your relationship?

 

What how does that change? You know, I would I wouldn't I'm gonna here and say that it definitely strengthened it. I think that it there are certain things that really are weird when you have to be honest.

 

And so to see her vulnerable like that, you know, everybody's perspective when you got cancer, like I was telling you earlier is well, my cousin had cancer.

 

And every, like when somebody finds out you've got it, everything becomes a story from somebody else.

 

And it does. And it's, okay, I I can sit there and listen. But when is your parent and I like I told you, it's called the it's called the graph gene and it's passed from mother to child, obviously. Typically, it's women.

 

1 and 881, but males get it. And it, I think it's hard, because as adults, as we get older, like my parents had me at older age. So, like, now having to sit back and watch our parents get older. You know what I mean?

 

He writes, but watching these start to give and hip start to go and dot it out it you know, it's mind blowing, and especially to see a parent have to deal with a child who will always be their child in their mind with a sickness that can Take life -- honestly, that there is a, there's a point to have to sit back and look at your parents and watch them have that fear.

 

Yeah. And feel that guilt of giving you something my mother's side of the family and my grandmother, lots of my mother's aunt, so my great aunt's.

 

Lots of them have died of breast cancer. 1 of my mother's sisters has had breast cancer twice as well. And it's just been 1 of those things to be like, man, this is it's a family thing.

 

I mean, it it is genetic, obviously. That, like, I could care less at this point about people, you know, talking about how you're supposed to eat, how you're supposed to do this.

 

And like, you could be a vegetable carrying, freaking, eating everything right in the booth, and get cancer.

 

Like, it don't break in matter, or you could be 03:50 pounds, and eating chocolate and bacon, and carbs and rice and pasta and fried chicken every day, and not have ever have cancer, like -- Sure.

 

-- it don't matter. When I hear people talking about stuff like that, it just that blows my mind. So Well, you said -- Yeah.

 

-- you said it's a family thing and obviously, genetics play a certain role, and and these traits are passed. And I guess to a certain degree, so are these I'm not even sure these strange I guess are also passed by.

 

But I imagine it also builds families out of strangers. As a support network. I imagine it also builds families out of friends as a support network. Okay. Absolutely.

 

I mean, it completely for me become people loving on me, and people loving on me that I didn't know cared that I did know that cared, that and I mean this, in all honesty, it's been a lot of financial stuff that people have helped me with.

 

I mean, not being at work, buying a house, like certain things have happened that I was like, Manage, am I got approved for the tricking house.

 

I don't have a job right now. You know what I mean? I'm 3, 4 months and they came over there like, I don't have a job, but I just got approved for this freaking house. Like, how about that position those words?

 

And people have literally paid for me to get gravel, dumped in my gravel driveway that cost 600 bucks that I didn't have. Oh, wow. People has paid -- Mhmm. -- my half of, you know, my house payment.

 

You know what I mean? Like, legit that I had just grateful and believed to be able to have these people in my life, like a group at my church made this, made church sold them and legit made, like, 7000.

 

Dollars Oh, wow. And I mean, they had to pay the t shirts.

 

But I mean, for these t shirts, they were 20 dollars and 7 dollars of every t shirt went back to the company, and I got 13 dollars times it was, like, 470 something t shirts. So it was, like, 13, dollars or 70 something.

 

Like, it was a lot of money. I mean, then, like, you know, they have to pay back the the go fund me or face whatever the the thing that they used to raise the money, you know, and the people for the t shirts.

 

So they ended up having to pay back, but I mean, like, it was a love money. And I was just like, at the end of the day, like, money ain't everything, but money's gonna keep these lights on.

 

Like, money's gonna keep this belly full. Like, And that just people, people came to the realization, like, I had people who are in groups, life groups at my church.

 

That would have walked up to me on Sundays and shook in my hand and given me 800 dollars like, and I was just like, I go, I said, boy, like, crying like a big old baby, like, go ahead and walking up to me.

 

And I had 1 family group that came up to me and hugged me, asked me how I was doing, and this was probably back in September.

 

And I mean, there was a hundred dollar long horn gift card. There was a hundred dollar Walmart gift card. There was a hundred dollar quick trip for cars or gas.

 

Like, it was, like, holy shmoly, like, like, let me tell you, man. People love it on you, like, you don't know that people love you until you get sick, and I didn't know that. Like, there were people who did not have to do.

 

There were people who definitely surprised me that I didn't think cared. That had been permanent on me. And some of them consistently. I have a man or man woman. I don't know who it is every week on Cash App.

 

Still don't know who the person is to this day. It's not connected to a phone number, anything every week, sends me a hundred dollars. Whoa. Like, just a random person. I think they got me from church.

 

They got me from this. They got me from the light. I had no idea. Every week, every week, even somebody who offered a church member, and I will not say his name, but he has paid my car payment every month.

 

Since since August, Oh, wow. Yeah. And he was like, I'll pay it till you're done with chemotherapy. I said, Really? Wow. He was like, yeah, that's at least me and my wife can do. I said, Okay. Right.

 

What am I supposed to say? Like, I'm not going I'm not going to die a blessing if somebody wants to bless me a little, I'm not gonna deny it. You know? Yeah. I mean, well, how do you I don't know. Maybe I'm getting ahead of well you.

 

But how do you repay that? Even just mentally, how do you cope with that kind of help? You know, like, I I hate to put this I'm not sure what the word is gender related, but like -- I've never -- generally, you know?

 

I've never felt I've never felt blind these people never make me feel guilt. Yeah. Like, they don't. Like, I mean, like, it's 1 of those things where I'm sitting back, sorry, and they get up to something.

 

It's freaking going down now. It's getting right in my eyes. It's just 1 of those things, man. Like, I've it's like, what am I doing What am I doing wrong?

 

Am I am I this and my dad? And these people are like, just keep being you. That's it. I mean, which is cool and it's admirable. But like -- Yeah. -- you know, there's eventually for I think most people self pride, I guess.

 

Where you get into your own head and you're like, I don't need your help. I can do this. Regardless of like prayers and and support networks. But like, I don't need your material help.

 

You know, you you take a pride hit. How do you How do you deal with that? I'm sure it occurred at least once. Oh, 0 yeah. So I mean, like I have I've had people, and I mean, this is not talking about anything financially.

 

This is like, there are people that have, seen me doing things that I knew that I shouldn't have been lifting back, because it was heavier than 25, 35 pounds.

 

You know what I mean? And having people come and get them and not let me do it in places.

 

And that's been hard as a guy. Had girls. You know what I mean? Come up and be like, no. I got it. I got it. Got it. Right. And I'm just like, okay. They're like, you're not supposed to be doing that.

 

Are you? And I'm like, Yeah. You're right. Like, it's prideful. It it doesn't hurt me really, really bad. No. But I'm like, it's come to a point for sure where I've had to look and be like, this is for your health.

 

Uh-huh. This is so that get worse. This is for you, this is for your body to heal. And I mean, like, that's what this is. This is a, this is a, literally, from June seventh to 20 21 to June seventh of 20 22, I am on a process to heal.

 

I mean, logistics. That's what I'm saying is, like, when you put the chemo in your body, your body doesn't realize that that chemo is it's trying it's hitting the cancer, but it's hitting your hair.

 

It's hitting your beard. It's hitting your immune system. It's hitting all these other things. And so it is like, man, you have to rest. You have to not be the outgoing fund going to go do everything person that you've always been.

 

To to heal. And and people realize that, but that's part of everybody knowing somebody who's had cancer. Like, that's the name of the game. And I think just having to trust the process is hard sometimes.

 

But that's where I'm at right now. Like, I'm just having honestly trust the process. I can't even imagine. I think to some degree, there's relatability in developing humility because of a reality check. But -- Oh, yeah.

 

-- but I think our experiences are drastically different in scale, especially. Let's I I wanna come back to that point that about healing, but I think this is a good second where we can take a minute. We'll we'll take a break.

 

We'll come back. And for our listeners, here. We're talking with Micah Johnson about his perspective and experiences going through experiencing cancer mentally, physically, emotionally, relating through it and is a perspective.

 

So, Michael, with that, let's let's take a quick second, brother, and then we'll be right back.

 

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Welcome back to SD YT the podcast. And while we're talking about the character of your character, that often requires a shift in perspective what we've been talking about here in this episode is how your perspective changes.

 

But honestly, more specifically as it's turned into, when you get a cancer diagnosis. But generally speaking, when you get a life changing realization, right?

 

And how your perspective changes in relating to other people, identifying yourself and your self worth and then better relating to who that is then and who that grows to be.

 

And so, I'm talking with Micah here about his situation. And this is this is the third piece in this episode right now.

 

But the first piece we talked about basically revolved around in the past 10 or 12 years, how things came to be, how they are, and in the second part, basically, revolved around where things are now.

 

From Well, overall, your perspective, Micah, but as a general sort of point of reference.

 

So, I think what would be really cool, a piece that you just brought up before we took that break was that you've got to trust the process and give your body a chance and time and the opportunity to heal, but I think more than just physically, which is a bit more obvious, mentally and emotionally and spiritually, time to heal and relying on other people to do that or or wherever and however that may apply.

 

And so I guess what I'm asking then Mica is is I'm I'm curious.

 

What does this healing mean for you? And then your future perspective and your future self. How does this resonate now then with you after all this time and exposure in experience.

 

Yeah, man. I'm right now as it sits, you know. I look optimistically into the future. I'm not gonna lie. There are lots of spiritual things where I'm like, god, why why me?

 

Why does this happen to me? Yeah. It it is definitely been a since 20 12, it's been, like, in every 4 to 5 year thing, like, that this comes back back, that it's here, that it's -- Man.

 

-- a pain in my life, and it's just like, man, this is this it almost gets to a point where I'm man, if you want me to die, God.

 

Just take me. You know what I mean? Like -- Yeah. -- like, are we gonna be doing this forever? And I think ultimately, like the healing process of being around people, is probably the best.

 

I definitely look and say it's not always about what someone can do for you, I think more or less a big part with it is, I'm 1 of those people that I just want somebody's time, like we ain't got to be doing nothing great grand and extravagant.

 

We can make hamburger helper of each out at your house and watching die hard, and I'd be having a good time.

 

You know what I mean? Like, I just won't be I mean, obviously, food if food's involved, then I'm definitely there. But it's completely 1 of those things where it's like, man, some people's some people's love language as gifts.

 

Some people's love languages are words of information. Some people's, it's physical touch. Like, mine is personal time. Like, I just want to spend time with people I could care less what we're doing, I just want that.

 

And I think that that is so much more powerful for me to sit back with people, relax with people, eat with people, watch movies, or just have an in-depth conversation, even if that conversation is me and you feeling like we're about to go at it if it's good, healthy conversation about something that you're passionate about, and I'm passionate about, or maybe 1 person is more passionate about it.

 

It's good for me. Like, I I like to talk about her events and what's going on in a nice respectable way. Yeah. You know, and and and doesn't always happen that way these days, and I get that.

 

Me healing, personally, take it more with a big sense of doing better for myself, in the aspect of eating right and and, you know, exercising those kind of things like I am I'm the king of losing weight, like I probably lost 607 hundred pounds over my freaking 34 years of life.

 

But it's 1 of those things, like, I I just at some point, it's like, I'm just not good at keeping it off. And so I I think that that I think about that constantly, man.

 

Yeah. It's it's my struggle. Like, if if 1 person struggles with alcohol or drug addiction, like, that's their struggle that had never been a struggle for me. My struggle has been biscuits and bacon and and candy bars, and screen.

 

Like, I get that. And, you know, if that's not something that's gonna send you to jail or make you kill somebody and you may kill yourself eating too much I mean, I get that.

 

So I think right now, definitely knowing that in the next 5 to 6 months, you know, I'm gonna be coming out of this on the other side, hopefully, healed that I'll be there and that June seventh is going to roll around, and I'll take those 5 pills for the this time that day and just be like, okay, let's do something better, Micah.

 

Let's try to not feed this cancer -- Yeah. -- because remission is just -- remission doesn't mean that you're cancer, rate, remission just means that you're moving in the right direction.

 

And right now, with my therapy, it's moving in the right direction, but it's like, man, I'm coming out of this, and honestly expecting some surgery in my colon for the colon cancer, like it's my treatment can only go for a year.

 

You can only take the pills for a year at most. So when did I found out that the colon cancer was there.

 

It's like, okay. But we'll come out of this, and I'm probably doing some kind of surgery. So I'll come out of that in June. Probably in July, maybe August, doing surgery -- Uh-huh.

 

-- and just being like, let let's let's take this time to physically heal, obviously, from that. But also healing my body, you know, just being conscious of what it is and I'm putting in my body, and I and I I hate it, man.

 

III can't think of anybody who's like, perfect at what they eat. You know what I mean? Like, I was telling somebody all that I was like, man, I know people who are taller than me and eat more than I do in their skin.

 

Like, I'm not going sit up here and complain. Like, people's bodies are different, you know, the northern water aspects of of things It's just like, didn't affect people the same way.

 

But I mean, there are things that I can physically and consciously do to do better. And I have to realize that some of this is out of my control. And it's okay not to be okay sometimes.

 

And I'm at that when where I have to realize that, like, I'm okay with not being okay with whatever happens if something comes back, if breast cancer comes back or if it's something new, like, you have to be okay without being okay.

 

And that's hard to say.

 

Yeah. But there's there's power in that too because and just saying it out loud for that matter, you know? Hearing it out loud for that matter. And then accepting it is sort of 3 levels of of its I suppose power at at that point.

 

But you said something I think that's interesting too, not the rest isn't, but in this moment, that is is pretty interesting. You said that there's days where you think spiritually are we gonna be doing this forever?

 

Like every 4 to 5 years, is this gonna be the thing? And we were talking about perspective earlier. So when said that, this is where my head went anyways. Maybe, maybe, but not cancerous. I'm not a doctor. I have no idea.

 

So, I'm not even gonna touch that piece. But but but in terms of perspective, in terms of a reality check, man, I it's good every so often to not be in a rut to keep your perspective fresh where every couple years something happens.

 

And it's the general trend in the military, obviously, because we CCS. So it was an easy benchmark, but but for a person, specifically in this case, you because you brought it up.

 

And I'm talking to you here directly. Yeah, I think what you've been able to accomplish in shifting your perspective. And from what you were worried about, like the first time I gave you a a really shitty haircut.

 

But, you know, and that that That was the theme of the day. Right? And the next morning, actually, you were bald then too. And I felt so bad. Oh, if y'all could only seen my hairline freaking touching my butt crack.

 

But, you know, that's those are the things that you cared about then, and And then, you know, think about how you were influencing people then and who you were as a person then.

 

More importantly, who your character was then, or what people thought your values and your character were then even if it was untrue.

 

And then, so now, you make these shifts over the next you know, 8 to 15 years, every 4 to 5 years increments, and you make these shifts in your perspective.

 

But but think about what you've been able to accomplish for other people and all of the things you've been able to change for them and their realizations and their growth.

 

By, like you said, with your boiling water analogy, what might be difficult on some days is the same exact cause and correlation that's making you stronger on other days, man.

 

It's it's it's unbelievable the the progress that you've been able to make.

 

And for whatever that counts to my personal opinion. I think it's amazing is the only word I can think of, man. I'm genuinely proud of what you've been able to accomplish.

 

And and then, if the plan for the next 4 to 5 years or every set of 4 to 5 years for the next 60 in your life, is some sort of spiritual reality check to keep you on track where you can be this relatively or comparably boisterous, impactful, influential dude that's able to make a positive impact in people's lives regardless of the cause?

 

But where you're able to do that, because that's the effect you had, man.

 

It's not like you've been I hate to trivialize this, but it's it's not like you've been walking around in different restaurants, poop and blood every bathroom you go to.

 

And that's your legacy. You know? Yeah. Like, you're not the guy who's been walking around complaining about how bad your day is and why your latte was called when you got it.

 

But -- Yeah. -- you know, so far, it's not even that what you've accomplished is, in my opinion, what you've accomplished is so cool and is what you'll be able to accomplish in the next 20, 30, 40 years based exclusively on the last 10.

 

Right? So now, compound that with over the last 30, what you'll be able to accomplish in the next 60.

 

Like, your your character, your perspective, your drive, your ability to internalize and reflect, and relate to people, and identify these little nuanced moments, to be genuine and inject that into a generic worldwide societal cultural view that is, I think, gradually getting a bit more shallow, that, like, you're the deep drop, man.

 

That you Yeah. Here here we go. I got it. This is this is your new. It's cancer culture. Cancer quote. I mean, we we can grow with that.

 

I don't know if it's earlier appropriate, but I like the flare. It's it's it's crazy to me, man. Like, despite everything you've been through, and then like you said, it it just Man, I'm so glad we had a chance to talk like this.

 

I wish it wasn't so long in between, but but it's so refreshing to me to hear, like, despite everything, you've still got some humor and perspective, and you've still got you, But but like super saying for you, you know, like, it's it's crazy, man.

 

Like, you're doing some seriously cool stuff. So if that's the plan that's in store for you and that happens every couple years where you realize that's what you've accomplished, then I absolutely hope that this streak continues.

 

The the rest of this? No. I hope that's done in 6 months. But but otherwise, man, I I think it's so cool. I I'm genuinely proud to have had you on this podcast and and listen to to your story.

 

This is so cool to me. No. I appreciate it, but III appreciate you for thinking of me. Yeah. Little old me. Yeah. Well, you say that, but like I said, you're the big drop so keep dropping deep, I guess. But that's a strange expression.

 

We're not gonna use that 1 anymore. But but I think you get the point there. I was gonna say that's what she said. Yeah. Yeah. Man. I we we gotta do this again. There's there's I I was telling you this on the break.

 

There's 53 total episodes scheduled for 20 22. And whatever you've got going on, and however well you end up feeling, even if we wait until June seventh or or around and after, I'm I I gotta get you back, man.

 

This is this is awesome. I'd I'd love to keep talking to you more or 17 other times this year if you can if you feel up to it, I'm all about it.

 

You tell me, I'm here and got nothing to do. Yeah. You know, you say that, but maybe like that support network you brought up earlier.

 

Maybe geographic distance isn't the only piece to overcome. Maybe -- Yeah. -- digital or what would you call this, I guess, cyber distance? Yeah. Is a way that you can reach people too.

 

I I just I I feel like you've got so much potential and and so much more that you can do. Don't sell yourself short. You got III really don't even have the words to justify that says, I'm hearing it out loud.

 

It's just not enough to to convey to you. I don't even know how to say it any any better, unfortunately. But but I do appreciate this opportunity, nonetheless. It's really it comes down to. So thank you.

 

Same. Same same same. Thank you. But Yeah. This is man, this is cool. Now, the last piece before before we get out of here, if by chance down the road, even when digital me and digital you, hundreds of years later, outlived physical us.

 

Anybody that was on I'm pretty sure. I'd have to look, but I'm pretty sure it was 20 11 on the German Town. Here's this podcast. Feel free to reach out. You can send me an email.

 

If you like, survival dad y t at gmail dot com, we'll get in touch with Micah again, and all of us can be an episode, that'd be pretty cool. But if you guys want to reach out to Micah, Michael, let me ask you, man, what do you prefer?

 

How do you prefer people to reach back out to if anybody hears this from back then? Oh my gosh. Facebook, I don't I don't even know my Facebook handle thing.

 

I don't know, but I'm on Facebook. Alright. Alright. It's it's probably just gonna be your name. So unless you changed it to something cool, like surf rider 99 or something, but, you know It's just Mike adopted, MICAH space, J0HNS0N.

 

There you go. Alright. So, yeah, if anybody here is just feel free to reach out. And again, man, I I really appreciate it. I know it's getting close to dinner.

 

I see the sun setting, so I'm sure you've got other plans on your mind right now. But -- Yeah. -- but yeah, we'll we'll be in touch with you. I appreciate this opportunity and And to all listeners out there, there you go.

 

We're we're talking love and reflection. Hope been healing, and faith, and family. And and this was just such a wild episode. I hope you guys enjoyed it. And So I'm Porter. I'm your host, and that was SDYT the podcast.