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I'm Porter. I'm your host, and now we're in the month of April already. Over a hundred days into the year. So far, all things considered, COVID seems to have subsided if it even existed at all based on the news at this point.

 

Otherwise, people are starting to come back out into the sunshine, so to speak, and see what the world's like, see what's come over the last 2 years.

 

With that comes different forms of self expression, creativity, new definitions, and even applications for what community is and has become around the world.

 

And in the spirit of those things, our guest on this particular interview, Carolyn Sevedanes, we're talking about humor creativity and community which are core values for April.

 

We're gonna jump into the fact that she's a veteran now living in Hawaii, mind you. But as a small business owner, with Chevy Beauty, TikTok influencer, all sorts of other topics with the psychology of your own design.

 

So before we get into any of that, If you're a new listener to the podcast, welcome. And if you're a continuing listener, welcome back. Folks, I'm Porter. I'm your host, and this is SDYT the podcast.

 

Alrighty folks. Welcome back to SD YT, the podcast again on Porter. I'm your host. And here today, Carolyn Savadonis. Currently, small business owner of Sevy Beauty and TikTok influencer at CaseSevy.

 

Sevy. What's up? How have you been? Hey. But it looks good right now. I think they're going really great. Business is starting up and, you know, COVID is going away or at least all the restrictions are lightening up.

 

And That makes life a little bit easier. Here in Hawaii, I do do her the last ones to lift the mask requirement, but it's nice to finally be able to to breathe and feel a little bit more relaxed in that sense, a little bit more freedom.

 

Obviously, you know, we have those mandates for a reason. It's nice to kind of finally be moving forward. Have not, you know, a new chapter. So, I'm so glad to be here.

 

How can you use, tighten it up? I did. I think this would be cool. Like, I now correct me if I'm wrong. The last time actually, I think the last time we even spoke, let alone saw each other in person was years ago now.

 

I'm not even sure. 6, maybe, 7 years ago. 20 15? Maybe. Yeah. Something like that? Make a change. Yeah. Yeah. A lot's changed since then. I mean, obviously, in the world, but You've got a business now.

 

I know. Right? Like, you're out of the you're out of the army. Everything's different. Carry out of the army. I've been retired now for medically retired when you're starting out this year.

 

I did my 10 years in and it was an experience for sure. To leave, but I'm really glad to be done with that chapter in life and moving forward with the business. And I struggled a little bit.

 

Transitioning out of the military. I mean, I still struggle a little bit with it. You know, I used to think that my passion was going to be in care design, and I do still have a huge love and passion for that.

 

But I think over the past year, so I just really found comfort and well-being and skin care and beauty and makeup. And I feel like that's where I belong in this field right now.

 

So, I'm just so grateful to be able to to do this to be in the citizen. Yeah, so great with all those people around me are helping me out to reach this this dream, make this dream come true.

 

Is there a difference between aesthetics and cosmetology? A little bit. The aesthetics is specifically the syrup skin. Right? Okay. So that's basically your skin, facial waxing, that kind of stuff.

 

Uh-huh. And then for cosmetology, includes, like, hair, barber Oh, okay. Some people even consider like pecorders, cosmetologist, because they're doing, you know, permanent make up a lot of time and stuff like that.

 

So Okay. So your focus is primarily aesthetics. Right. Primarily just, like, been there. I see. Have you been able to pursue a aesthetician certification or licensing or anything like that yet?

 

I'm finishing up finishing up right now. I'll be all done next month in May. Congratulations. So that's when I can offer the full the full cataloging services at heavy duty.

 

So right now we're just doing makeup. I give small, like, 1 on 1 sauces. For both of them unaware how to do their own makeup on that call. And then I also do, like, phone, desk, anything like that. So Sure. A lot of fun.

 

And, obviously, you've got a social media presence now. Is this for marketing? Is this for fun? Is this a hobby? Is this part of your business? Do you incorporate social media then? Yeah. Honestly, it really started, like, to talk.

 

I think a lot of us started to talk during COVID and, you know, quarantine and stuff. And I started it just for, you know, kinda shifts and giggles. It was fun. It was just a way to kind of escape.

 

I think that's 1 of the things that make sick talk so different from other social media platforms in that you're not interacting with people around you, you know, people that you might know, algorithm kind of pushes you towards people that are away from you, people that you probably would never cross paths with if it weren't for the app.

 

So that's what I really like to talk to Fox. Know. I find it to be, you know, you can really curate it a lot more, see what you want to see.

 

Like for me, for example, Instagram was a little bit triggering because I have a tendency of comparing my life, obviously, to what other folks other people close.

 

I think we all kind of turn a little bit guilty on the, you know, aspect. Sure. So I feel like on TikTok, it's not as bad.

 

You know? Like, it's more curated to see things that are gonna bring me up versus seeing things that are gonna bring me down. But, you know, Instagram is a great marketing tool as far as for the business.

 

So right now I only have the Instagram I only use the MCP app for the business. And I think it's a fun way to reach out to people and people, you know, or they're always scrolling on your phone.

 

So 50 70 beauty book an appointment and a good job. Yeah. And for anybody listening, the majority of the ads that we've been posting in leading up to this interview.

 

We've been tagging Chevy Beauty as well. So you can see that in some of our ads. Click on that link, in the description for that ad, and it'll take you right to her profile as well.

 

So I'm curious though, Debbie, you said basically curated distancing, right, where you're able to cultivate with TikTok more specifically, but you're able to sort of surround yourself with influences that you prefer to bring you up or to build your perspective or whatever you prefer to to incorporate, you mentioned that like Instagram, for example, you experienced it more as comparing yourself despite the distance as opposed to curating yourself despite the distance.

 

And aside from social media and digital platform, what's the sort of relationship I guess that you've experienced or that you've seen in real life? Now COVID aside. Right?

 

But now that people are out and about Have you noticed any more picking and choosing or you're aligning your perspectives with with similar minded people now that you're back in the world or with people that see things differently?

 

Yeah. No. Definitely. I feel like I mean, you always wanna have people that are open minded and have, like, a broader perspective of things -- Uh-huh.

 

-- that the fund that I surrounded myself with or the people that I surrounded myself with 2, 3 years ago are very different from the people that I surround myself with now.

 

And nothing against the people that, you know, I was around before. We just, you know, chose to surpass and the path that I'm on now. I like people who are gonna lift me up and people who like to do the same thing.

 

I think when I was in the military, it was so embedded in our in our brains and values to be active outdoorsy, you fit, you know, making a body standard and stuff.

 

And so I listen to that as a child as well. And, you know, I develop eating disorders, and I develop body image issues.

 

Coming out of the military and leaving that. That was 1 of the things that was really hard is that it was all about how fit you were, how good you looked, physically.

 

And I surrounded myself with people who are also obsessed with their self image and being fit in no matter the cost. You know, pure mental health or whatever. And so I've learned over the past couple years.

 

I don't know, find my own tribe. Like, I don't have to be like that anymore. Like, I don't get much pleasure out of working out like most people do because I associate it with, you know, those tough you know, ideas.

 

Now it's down myself with people who do like to just sit around and do a puzzle or something or who do just, like, wanna, like, go and watch a movie because that's more me, you know.

 

And I've got myself with people who don't care if you have an extra love candle or not.

 

It's okay to have that doughnut. It's okay to, you know, people who aren't obsessed with. And there's nothing wrong with people who if if you're into your image and physique and stuff like that by all means that's you you.

 

I'm proud of you. I still have a lot of friends that are bodybuilders and physique performers and whatnot competitors.

 

Nothing but love that that just wasn't me because and I was really pushing myself so far to meet that standard that I set for myself to be on their level, and it hurt me a lot. So now I'm a lot more so.

 

I'm the people that I set myself like do the things that I like to feel too. And It definitely helps. Much better. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. Emotionally, spiritually, physically, I'm I'm sure it helps a lot all around holistically.

 

Right? And I think that's 1 thing that's, I guess, interesting about COVID and what it was and for all of the problems and issues and and relative devastation that it caused people and families, I think a benefit to what was there.

 

It was sort of like a spiritual reset for a lot of people to identify what what are you actually doing with your life, or with your time, or do you even like and prefer what you're doing.

 

Is it getting you closer to your goals? Do you even know what your goals are? You know?

 

And I and I think a lot of that stuff -- Yeah. Helps to drive people, but only if you realize that it exists. Right? Like if you don't know what your goals are or who you are as a person, for example, like you, who you are now today.

 

Like you said, it's not who you were, the same people you spend time with, now aren't the same people you would have been. You really don't even look the same.

 

You know, your hair is not in a bun and you're not wearing a uniform. Like, there's there's a total a total difference. So I think it was good for sort of a spiritual reset at least in that regard. Over the last couple years too.

 

So I'm glad you actually Yeah. I transitioned, like, already around same time that COVID came up, you know, like a little bit after like a month or 2 after I left, that's when all the restrictions and quarantines and stuff.

 

So so we had really lined up really specifically, like, I needed that reset.

 

I'm, like, you know, I was just transitioning out of the military, trying to figure out what I needed, what I wanted to, and it was for me really good to have that pause.

 

And just think about things like that and think about where I wanted to go with me. Do I wanna keep the same values that I had in the military? I had to, like, curate that for myself.

 

You know what I mean? Like, do I want to work in the same places? Do I want to live in the same place? Like, am I going to stay in Hawaii, am I gonna stay in the same apartment? Why am I choosing to stay like this?

 

Like, you know, that kind of thing. You know, it's interesting you say that that it it literally took the world pausing for you to be more genuine about who you were and honest about that to yourself.

 

Isn't it crazy how busy or or noisy or chaotic or distracting or feeling the blank adjective?

 

And how easy it is for that to happen for the world to be that way. Until until everything just powered down. It was a lot easier for people I think to identify or align better with what it is they prefer.

 

I think now it's easier for people to understand even employers. Right? And and educators and people in general to know that it's okay to take a day off from work if you're not doing well mentally.

 

Like, you don't have to call out sick from work to since you're feeling physically sick. Like, if you're mentally not well, think about it.

 

Take a day, take 2 days, reset, reorganize. The work will still be there. The job will still be there. The work will still be there. The people will still be there. Like, I find it much easier now to do it.

 

Like, more than school, right, for in church to find and I was freaking out at 1 point because I wasn't doing well mentally, and therefore that was disgusting on my work in school, and I was falling behind.

 

And, like, I was having, like, a panic attack, anxiety attacks because I couldn't keep up, and and I didn't know what to do.

 

And, you know, I didn't wanna kick off from school because I was, like, then I'll fall more and more behind or whatever.

 

But, eventually, I crashed. I hit rock bottom, you know, and it took that reset. It took me, like, I'm physically ill from being mentally ill to reset and be like, okay.

 

I can do this. So I feel like now it's so important for people, and I'm grateful that COVID opened up that discussion about being okay to take a pause from whatever you're doing.

 

And it's okay to take a mental health day. Like, it's important to Because if not you do burnout, if not you do get exhausted, if not you do lose the passion to drive, you know, and you end up going down the wrong path.

 

Because you are asking on impulses and just going going going going going going going going going going and you're not reevaluating.

 

Even in the military, the comments are, you know, when you're doing admission, like, you always have checkpoints, like and I feel like in life, we have to have checkpoints. With ourselves?

 

Like, how does checkpoint? Is am I still going in the right direction? And do I still have all the resources that I need? Or do I need to refuel or readjust? Or and I'm glad that now, it's a lot more acceptable for people to do that.

 

On on a daily basis versus, like, just when they crash and burn. That is an interesting point. Right? As far as burnout goes, especially knowing 1, it's it's okay to ask for help or ask for support.

 

But 2, I like the way you put that checkpoints or have checkpoints set for yourself before you set out that day, that week, that month, that phase of your life.

 

To know, do I need to refuel am I am I running low on whatever incentive motivation, aspiration goal support network, my own just sort of peace and be able to hear what's in my own head.

 

Remove some distractions like it might add a good point. I like that. I never thought really about it that way before. That is interesting.

 

And then to take that, You said being able to better curate who you surround yourself with and what you do with those people as far as their input, their opinions, their perspectives for you and your own mental well-being.

 

So from a community perspective, a support group perspective, what have you done? You, specifically your mental health and well-being, physically affected your ability to to do things and thrive as a person.

 

So what did you do? How did you build yourself back? So, you know, transitioning out of the military, I was working in different jobs.

 

So when I was younger, I was a bartender. So I was like, oh, I'll go back to doing that. The time I was, like, working, I even looked at a donut stop at 1 point.

 

And all these, like, jobs are great. Like, then I got the really good start coming up in town and trying to town in Honolulu, and that's a really busy, like, staff hopping kind of destination.

 

Like, when people come here, like I would say, China's gone as a place to go for bar hopping and clubbing and stuff.

 

And so I got back into the bat and I started utilizing that I did really really great thing. There's not anything done with people that I work with, again, anything like that.

 

But I didn't feel well. I would come home and I would feel drained. Not just physically, but emotionally because I felt like I wasn't connecting with my customers. I wasn't connecting with my coworkers. There were discussions.

 

A lot of the things that work has going on when it gets my values as a person. I have this aside. Like, yeah, the money here is great. That is it worth it. You know, thinking around these people that I can't connect with.

 

You know, I felt no support. I felt alone even though I was surrounded by alleged people. I felt alone. And then I decided to change up, you know, like, okay. This isn't fitting me anymore.

 

Same thing at school. Right? I was going over and here to buy. But I didn't feel the support I needed to continue doing that. Like, my teachers didn't really understand the fact that I was going through a lot of stuff.

 

Emotionally, like I mean, they try to do their best to accommodate me, you know, giving me extensions to turn in work and stuff, but I was like, okay.

 

Well, maybe this isn't the industry that I need to be in because of an interior design, like, you have deadlines, you have stuff permits that you need to to talk with, and you know, whatnot.

 

It's like bam bam bam. You know what I mean? It's very structured. Sure. And I needed something a little bit more flexible. And I needed the people in my life to be a lot more flexible. I think it was, like, in December last year.

 

I quit my job. I quit school. I took a reset. I evaluated till I ended a relationship that for me was not working anymore. For me, so Michael, for what I wanted. And I just listened to my guy.

 

I listened to myself. I took a reset, and I set out the things that I thought were going to be better for me. So I found a job at a brewery. So I like working at bars and breweries because it's a great network and and socialize.

 

Like, that's why I like to socialize, but this particular bureaus, like, it's very chill. It's very mellow, mostly just regular, coming in And so for me, that was that took so much better.

 

It was, like, a breath of session. But I wanna go to work. I wanna see my coworkers. I'm interested in learning how to root beer and, like, interested in talking to people.

 

I can you know, it's a very warm nominal piece. It's right down the street for me. It feels much more like the community. It's the people that come in during my shift.

 

Most of them are all regular. And if they're not regular, like, we end up becoming friends because I have the time to sit down and talk to people. And these are the people that have similar interests with me.

 

Some more ideas, to my thoughts, same thing with my group of friends, you know. Like, I ended up just pissing myself from the friend from the bar scene. Because it wasn't my place anymore. Like, I'm not 20 years old anymore.

 

Like, it's not my skin anymore. You know, 31 and, you know, on student's honor. I need a son myself with people who are, you know, achieving the things that they wanna achieve and who can, like, pick me up and encourage me to do things.

 

And do you understand that I have a very busy schedule with school in setting up the business and working, you know, at the brewery, but understand that if I don't call a tech or whatever, they will reach out to me to check-in.

 

If I'm doing okay. You know what I mean? You know, my son on the first team weren't checking and seeing me.

 

I was okay. And that's fine. You know, if that wasn't our relationship, but I needed someone who was going to know to call and text me if I have if they have a test for me in 2 or 3 days.

 

And offer help and stuff because I know that I have a hard time asking for help. So that's what I need, like, security. You know, and then I thought for a long time, I was like, maybe I need to move out of Hawaii.

 

Maybe I need to leave. So I looked into that for a while and nothing really came out for me. Because it just, again, didn't line up with what I wanted.

 

So I was like, so I need to make the space that I'm in now. So I'll I'll financially put flat lead here. I need to curate the space that I have now to work for me. And so that's what I did.

 

You know, I just started making smaller moves like that. And I think that that's what everybody needs to do at different points in their lives. You know, like 5 years from now, it's probably gonna have to reevaluate.

 

Like, you know, is having all these harry potter stuff in my apartment conducive to a good living. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure everything in moderation except for Harry Potter decorations.

 

Yeah. There's Well, everything in moderation except Harry Potter. Well, I'll try I wanna send it into the Harry Potter Air V and D. I think that would be really fun. Honestly, these things make me happy.

 

Like, I look around and it's nostalgic and it's fun. It's light hearted. It's funny, you know, like, you know, our topic for today's humor. You know what I mean? Like, it's okay to laugh at the things that you wanna laugh at.

 

Like, I used to be like I used to hold back, like, by cops, in my love for Harry Potter from us because I didn't want to be made fun of. Like, I know, to grow an ass adult, like, it means you're be made fun of or something I like.

 

Because then I was like, okay. Why is this way too sure? I'm gonna spend my money that my my card earned money on, you know, all of my because when I wake up in the morning and I look at it, it brings me Thomas joy.

 

And I think most more people need to be like that, you know. I used to be at the back of my apartment needing to look like a it's like a magazine photo shoot, you know, like will digest or something.

 

Yeah. And now I'm just and what time is it feeling lived in? I think that's sort of metaphorical for people's lives too.

 

Not to take it too deep too quick but I think that's a important distinction as well. Specifically when you're talking about curating your lifestyle, your friends, your support group, your perspective.

 

I think there's a fine line but it's an important distinction between cultivating a lifestyle, cultivating an image for yourself, for your surroundings, whatever.

 

It has an objective to it serving other people, vice something that actually helps you have an outlet and actually helps you find who you are and be happy with who you are, build your self esteem, which which is huge.

 

I don't wanna derail your train of thought. Before we get too much further, though, let's take a break for a couple minutes, and we'll be back.

 

Yeah. We'll talk more about humor creativity, community, get a little bit more to the psychological aspect of how all these things sort of came to be as well. And for everybody listening, sit tight, we'll be back in a few minutes.

 

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Guys, I'm Porter. I'm your host. And this is SD YT the podcast, where values still hold value. Alrighty, folks. Welcome back to SDYT the podcast. Again, I'm Porter. I'm your host. And I'm sitting here today with Carolyn Civadonis.

 

Host host owner of Savvy Beauty. Currently using Instagram, TikTok, And in case you're just joining us in the podcast, the first segment, we talked a lot about community, which was 1 of our core values for April.

 

But specifically as it applies to taking care of yourself and a support network and identifying that you can out grow people.

 

You can outgrow your communities and your surroundings and you need to sort of develop and curate a new space for yourself to continue growing.

 

And so here in the second segment, 1 of the things that I'm curious about now is that sounds great when things are going well, but what about when they're not going well?

 

What about when you feel bad? What about when you feel depressed? What about when you're just grieving or processing? What you're just sad? And so that's what we're gonna dive into Sevi.

 

Welcome back. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. First segment was really great. You know, I really want to where we were going. But, you know, most of them always, sunshine and rainbows because I know that's what we get here in Hawaii.

 

But what's today? Today is kind of like a more of a rainy day. So what do you do when you when you do -- Mhmm. -- security a space for you?

 

Not just the mental space, but a physical space. I think a lot of people neglect how much of physical faith and the design of the physical faith can have an impact on your mental state and your emotional faith in your relationships.

 

Right? I think COVID taught us a lot about how things are all fun and bambi when you're in a living space with your partner, your family, whatnot.

 

But what happens when you guys are all sharing that state, all day long every single day for that is very surprised.

 

I think a lot of people realized how upsetting it was to have that speak curated to meet those relationship needs and that could, you know and your your own needs as well.

 

So it's a good day then the bad day. So definitely something important, you know. I've started with depression pretty much since I was a teenager.

 

Right? They had pretty strong when I got here to Hawaii. You know, a lot of things happen when I got here. I cannot I don't live in the barrack for the first time. I guess.

 

Like, going through a breakup at the board, call new setting, call new job, my step up with the with the military, you know, it was a pretty dark time, but 1 of the things that coming from an interior design background was I knew that Even though I hated living in the bed, even though it was difficult for me, I had to make that safe work for me.

 

And so I started with things that brought me joy. I kept it clean because I knew that on my most depressed days, I didn't want to claim.

 

You know, I knew that if I went to the I had it set up to where, you know, I went 50 days about cleaning it, I would be okay, you know, it wouldn't be so bad.

 

But also, when I was feeling really the best first 2 or 3 days, I would realize, okay, well, my face is grossed down.

 

Maybe just cleaning it up a little bit, just sleeping, just documenting, just following my clothes. You don't even have to put it away, just hold your clothes.

 

Sometimes that will just feel like it's locked up in the right direction or follow it up quickly if you have to if it brings you joy, then it's really the little things that you need to curate in your physical space as well.

 

To have that that season in your medical spaces? Yes. I think it does play a huge role in both directions, right, having let's call it your mental space positively impacting your physical environment.

 

But in the opposite direction as well, having your physical space positively impact your mental environment. And I think it's a difficult balance sometimes because first of all, I think that's a luxury to be able to do that.

 

To reassess your priorities, rearrange your priorities into a way that better balances this equilibrium between a mental and a physical environment for somebody, anybody.

 

But what happens when you can't? Right? Maybe not in the military exclusively, but you don't have the opportunity to physically or metaphorically escape your environment.

 

I mean, like, you don't have a space for you. Maybe you're 1 of 10 kids, and there's just no room in the house.

 

There's nowhere to go. And you shared a bedroom for 18 years. You know, maybe you're a single child exclusively to 1 parent and you're growing up in a war zone, but there's nowhere for you to go.

 

There's nowhere for you to see anything differently because there's no electricity, clean water, you know, you're you're doing what you can to stay dry most days. Best case scenario, not as hot as the outside air. But that's it. Right?

 

So there's there's a lot of other cases too around the world where in any semblance and scale between those 2 sort of extremes, that this luxury to be able to make yourself comfortable is easy to overlook, but because it's not really possible.

 

You have any recommendations, you have any insight or perspective as to how you can still curate a space when Maybe it seems like it's not even logical or possible?

 

The fact I told you, like I said earlier, it's really the smallest thing can make up a huge impact.

 

It's holding something. It's it's a picture. You know, it's looking up and and seeing, like, 1 good thing, you know, that can really have huge impact.

 

But, you know, when I was in I never deployed. Right? But I did go to an see national training for, like, 3 or 4 times. You know, we were out there in the desert.

 

We were sleeping in our humvees, and we didn't have a lot. But I made it so that it felt comfortable to me. Like, I didn't really have anywhere to wash my clothes, but, you know, I had a trash bag.

 

So I made it to where, you know, I just kind of washed it in there and then, like, hung it up on the front knee to dry or kept, like, a little like blanket.

 

That's, like, for me, it was, like, comforting and stuff, appreciating the fact that even though I was away from a lot of other people that I'd love to be wanted to be around.

 

I have this 1 person that was there with me, and I haven't made that 1 person work for me.

 

Whether it's being, like, even if I didn't like that person, making sure that I feel some sort of connection with them. So that we could both make it through whatever we were going through.

 

How do you do that, especially with people that you don't really get along with or don't care to get along But in those moments, like in the truck, for example, you kind of have to.

 

How do you do that? Compassion. Compassion. You have to know that everybody has a reason why they're asking the way they are, everybody. So for example, my last relationship.

 

Right? My girlfriend's mother and I did not get along. At first, we did. But it ended up being to where we had an altercation. And for many days, I wanted to hate her. I wanted to be really mad at her.

 

How dare she be so rude to me or whatever. But then, like, I that's to think that deals with depression. She deals with physical pain, she has trauma that she's never been taught to cope with in a happy manner.

 

Let's think that, you know, she's up there in age and so you know, we get stuck in our ways. We get stuck in our mind. We get stuck in our coping mechanisms and our habits.

 

And I just has to be compassionate to her, show compassion that, you know, for every option, there's a reaction. Mhmm. Her responses superb reaction, and there's a reason she reacts with this.

 

And it's usually a trauma response. Right? I'm not a psychologist by any means, but I have been in therapy for many years. The way I respond to something based on the trauma eye experience is gonna be different from what she does.

 

And I think that's where we clash. I just wanted to, you know, kinda put myself in her shoes. Like, this is what she felt, her emotions are valid. Her feelings are valid.

 

Her fears are valid. Her paying is valid, it's all invalid. And I think that's 1 thing that we forget as, you know, people sometimes is that we try to invalidate other's feelings. We try to invalidate our own feelings and emotions.

 

Like, oh, I shouldn't be mad right now. Why shouldn't you be mad? And if that person start you, didn't that person offend you, didn't that person violate your boundaries, your space, and whatever?

 

Do not. It's okay. But let it go, you know, be mad, feel it, acknowledge it, and then release. You know? And so once I was able to kind of really separate myself from her own her response to whatever happened.

 

I was able see the person, and I was able to see the possible pain that, you know, I might have caused even unknowingly, unintentionally.

 

That's a big thing that's missing in a lot of people's lives is is the compassion to know that we are all dealing with stuff.

 

All about it. Okay. But in an organization like the military. Right? That's like the softer side of the military, I think, is the perception anyways. Right? Because you're right, everybody's going through something.

 

I hate that word. Right. But it happens. I hate yeah. That's another reason why I'm not in anymore because I could not align myself with a lot of the the things that have in the military.

 

I just couldn't wrap my brain around it. I couldn't object us to it. There was this idea that's showing compassion to somebody being stopped. Nothing stopped being strong. I see it as being strong.

 

I see it as being practical. Obviously, this person issue is feeling something, and they're, you know, they're allowed to feel this, and they're allowed to have their own minus stuff. Is there a time and place for certain things?

 

Absolutely. So once you step aside and look at it, you know, for a place of compassion, then you can start to generalize it in a more logical setting in a more psychological setting, and then you can connect with the person.

 

And the person that's a trap. Right? Then my mom and I. We still don't really see eye to eye. You know, it wasn't something, but at least we could have respect for each other.

 

Respects that she was going through something. I was going through something. We crashed, and now we can just move on make our separate lives about holding any bridges, about having anything awful to say about each other and whatnot.

 

And I think in the military, it was like that too, you know, in your soldiers, they're like, 1 thing I really learned, you know, that I I was very glad that I had, like, some really great leaders.

 

1 of my buddies. He's actually a TikTok influencer now.

 

He's really funny. It makes sense. Tim and I were assumed sergeants together, and 1 time we had this this 1 guy that was, you know, this 1 soldier that was always late again, it comes from that place of compassion.

 

Right? He's like, say, well, then I do think he'd wait. Maybe there's something deeper behind there that is going on. And he's like, he's not willing to share right now. He doesn't know how to share.

 

He doesn't think that he can share, or he he he thinks that we're not gonna care about. But if we address that and figure out what the the actual, like, Obviously, him being late is a response to something else.

 

It's not his genuine intention, like, oh, I'm purposely gonna be late because I wanna his self sergeant said the daughter.

 

Sure. No. I'm late because I stayed up all night arguing with my parents. I stayed up all day arguing with my partner.

 

I'm tired, I'm depressed. Doing that in the military, I considered stocks, like, paid that word, So always take that word because then it keeps people from actually addressing what the actual problem is.

 

Instead of addressing the response. You don't need to address the response. I mean, I'll need to acknowledge it. Okay. You're late. You're not supposed to be late. Let's figure out why they're not particularly face pop culture.

 

He was dealing with familiar family problems. If that sounds like him, it's talking to him, we can some advice and guess what? The response of him always being late, it went away. Did it fix his problems at home?

 

Maybe not perfectly, but he knocked out comfortable with, like, texting a pay. This happened tonight. Can I you know, do this and this? He would felt more comfortable reaching out because we saw him as a person.

 

We acknowledge the fact that him being late with the response to these were things that were going on. Like -- it's interesting you say that -- that compassion -- aspect of compassion.

 

For 1, and I'm going to hit 2 points here, but to what you said, 1 here in the military that compassion is a logical response to get people to better act as people.

 

Right, to communicate, to rely on each other, build trust, to thrive, survive, whatever it was.

 

But as people, in in my experience, not every time, but a lot of the time, in unwillingness to publicly be as compassionate and balance that out with some semblance of mission accomplishment, or a fulfilled accomplished mission.

 

I think a lot of the time comes from fear or ignorance on behalf of the other party sometimes and then the respective individual.

 

1 or the other of those 2 might be afraid of repercussions of speaking out of being open of being vulnerable Well, the other may also be afraid of the repercussions of speaking out of being vulnerable and in the ignorance of how to actually process those emotions, with somebody else, right, and actually build a support network.

 

I think it's difficult. Now it's getting better, and I'm only speaking on behalf of the Marine Corps. I've never been in any any other branch, but in my experience, it's getting better.

 

Right? It's not where it was a decade ago or 20 years ago, and it getting better. But the second thing I think that's interesting is this is the first time you and I have spoken about any of these topics in any kind of detail.

 

And your if I remember right, maybe the third or fourth person that's been interviewed on this podcast that has alluded to or explicitly said you have to be willing to meet people where they are at.

 

In this case, it's more in regards to compassion.

 

In other cases, it was in regards to communication, but the principle, the concept, Interestingly, in my opinion, despite different perspectives, different settings, different conversational topics and gateways, the theme, the concept is still constant that in order to survive as humans, we have to communicate and be willing to communicate and be vulnerable in doing that.

 

And so I'm I'm really glad you brought that up for those 2 points.

 

1 of the things you mentioned though, prior to that, being in the very or making a space your own to where you can help process, how do you do that to help other people process?

 

To help other people feel welcome, feel comfortable in your face. Like, they're entering your physical, vulnerable representation of what's in your head, right, of how you're feeling that day.

 

So how do you use that then in reverse to help somebody else feel comfortable or or be compassionate? I think it's I think it's very because I think, for me, I I had a found where you were 5 states was my state, like, about us.

 

I've brought very few people into my personal update or even mental. But even here, my I have a studio apartment.

 

I purchased the studio apartment because I know that I do not like to live with other people because this is my safe haven. This is what I escaped from people when I need good time when I need it. And I need it a lot.

 

So even when I was in the bar, there are a few people who are alive in my space. You know, and I think that that's okay. It's okay to limit who can and cannot come into your physical space as well as your mental state.

 

Obviously, sometimes that's not optimal because even military wasn't so just making sure that if there's anything in there that don't want anyone else to be, then, you know, have a safety for it.

 

And maybe, you know, if you're having company or whatever, find out what that person is interested in? What's that person like?

 

So maybe, like like, for me, like, I'm gonna take a person of months. Right? So if I do have someone that I'm, like, starting to open up my safe or race. And let's say they come over for coffee or something, hang out.

 

Like, I'll have a love just for them. I feel like that makes them feel special. Like, and I have friends that, like, delta or I have friends that are, like, cat people or dog people.

 

I have dogs for, you know, most of my friends or specifically now, I've I've switched over to all things Harry Potter. So what's your Harry Potter house? Like, you're you don't have a Harry Potter house?

 

Oh, alright. I got some. For you, you know, and then just I think it's really just paying attention and making it hard to actually care to know something about a person. Something personal.

 

So you have to be super personal. I know people are like, oh, what's your favorite color? Like, it seems like such a stupid thing to know about somebody. But honestly, it's something again, I'm gonna say it's the little thing.

 

If you actually taking the time to have the compassion and to really want to know something about that person, not because you have to, but because you generally want to.

 

And I think that's how you make connections. Is when you generally take the time, the effort to know a person, not how you connect.

 

I like that. It could be and and it goes back to what you're asking. How do you do that with people that you don't necessarily like? Right? Sure. We're all human. So you're gonna find something that you guys can have in common.

 

And even if it's not in common, you can relate somebody on something. Even if it's the smallest thing, first, like, the same bubble gum or double gum in general. I don't know.

 

And it's taking find an effort to know to find that effect on and done. Well, that's the hard part. Right? Finding inspiration in some cases where opportunity in others or both in a few others to be able to find things in common.

 

Whether it's the time, the effort, the energy, the communication skills to be able to identify those things or not.

 

Use an example. I remember you have mentioned in your humvee and in the desert similar circumstance. This was So for anybody listening in the marine corps, especially in the infantry, we call them field ops.

 

More like an opportunity to be out of the barrett for training than than any other sort of direct translation. But either way on on 1 of these field ops, this might even have been my first 1.

 

I don't remember. We had a patrol. Right? So we're carrying our packs. We walked out into the desert. This is in the Mojave desert, Southern California. So we walked out into the desert for a few hours in any particular direction.

 

I don't remember where or why. But by the time we got there, similar to your checkpoint analogy earlier. We didn't have vehicles come out of Meetas, but we had 1 specifically.

 

It was a soft top of it that brought out stuff like water jokes and everything that had been warm because it packed yesterday and had been hot all day or whatever. But we have water.

 

So we stopped, everybody got some water. Everybody had an opportunity to eat, change socks, and then we continued to where we had to go. By the time we got there, it was about dusk maybe. Sunset. I remember just being exhausted.

 

Physically, mentally, emotionally, just drug out exhausted. Maybe the pack was heavy, maybe it was a long distance, maybe the terrain, maybe just need lack of conditioning. I don't know. But I remember being exhausted. In every sense.

 

And so as we pulled everything out, our eyes were mad to lay down on the ground. And then basically a blanket, we had a poncho liner. I don't know what you guys had, but it wasn't like a a wool blanket or whatever for anybody listening.

 

And anyway, so I pulled it out and I laid down and I I rolled up my boots and put them under my head so I had something to lay on, and then we all had to put our packs at our feet.

 

Right? So I put my feet up on my pack and just waited until I passed out.

 

Right? But I was just in a weird sort of emotional state, I guess. It's not like I was crying. I just couldn't focus. There was nothing I could attribute my emotions so I was too scattered.

 

And I remember there was a guy next to me Joel. Actually, he said that this was his favorite part of all of the field ops we would have every time we would go out. I said, where you talk, how is that even possible?

 

This is literally the least favorite of everything I've ever done on my list. And he said, well, Just stop for a second. Listen. You don't hear anything. Right? Smell. You don't smell anything. It's just air.

 

It's just the earth. It's just the environment. Like, there are no distractions. And, oh, by the way, look up there's no ambient lighting. Right? It's all stars. The night sky in the desert, really any desert is incomparable.

 

Yeah, incomparable. Overwhelmingly, like, puts you in a position to really It's it's it's it's it's anybody listening. Like, if you've never had that opportunity, I would I would speak it out.

 

Yeah. Even just 1 night in a short term rental yurt, like, go do it. Yeah. And and it was those little moments that despite all the long days, the hot days, the exhausting days walking around in the desert or whatever.

 

That honestly, had it not been for Joel? I don't know. I'm sure I'd have noticed it eventually. Maybe I've given myself too much credit, but But once he pointed out just that little difference, it it made all the difference.

 

Following it. So, like, even in the worst circumstances, that 1 little piece. And then now you enjoy a connected driver. Right? You're always gonna remember him when you look up at a nice guy like that.

 

Right? Yeah. And -- Yeah. -- you guys could have not known shit about each other. It's got 1 thing now connected to you guys. Uh-huh. Yeah. It's crazy. But realistically, I think that's the case for anybody and everybody.

 

Right? You're like sure you tie things back to smells and you tie things back to memories and whatever, but but an emotional connection to people even when you're alone helps.

 

Absolutely. Yeah. And and it makes habit of what I'm the best, and I'm sure most people who get depressed and anxious have isolated.

 

Right? Uh-huh. Isolating is very dangerous. For people with mental health issues and anybody. You know, it's necessary sometimes to reset and sometimes you do need that to be with yourself.

 

But when you start, isolating yourself because you feel either undeserving or you just completely cannot connect with anybody, it can be very dangerous.

 

And so that's why I really push myself to always have a job where I can kinda be forced to socialize and stuff because those little connections you make with people different.

 

I have a friend who he was a marine. He's a veteran. And then I were in therapy together. We've never met in person. And for the past, like, year or so, him and I have talked to each other every day -- Well -- every single day.

 

Really? And we we like to send each other feedbacks out, like, our toes in the morning or backed up us through some of our duct tape. And then ours could not be more different as people.

 

But it started off as, like, that 1 little joke about types, and now we send each other till 6 almost every day. But it's really weird, and it's not anything, like, No. I I get you. I get you.

 

But it's enough to make you smile. It kinda makes the biggest difference. And with that, like, small joke that we started off on, and he's showing him compassion and him showing me compassion during our group sessions in therapy.

 

He's been able to open up to me. I've been able to open him, you know, he's never met in person. He's probably 1 of my boss, but he's the person I reach out to in 1 of you.

 

I reach out to when I'm feeling at my lowest and I know he he knows that I'm there for him too. And I think these are the important connections you need to make in life.

 

So this is what you need to carry. You need to find that person that you can connect with and be open with, and you need to pay and you have securely that for yourself, or else it's gonna be a very hard fight.

 

It's hard to make it when you isolate yourself when you don't have those connections. And like you said, you can be physically isolated.

 

Right? That's okay too for that matter. It is it's fine. And even if you get used to it, or more comfortable with it that to have somebody to reach out to, to have any organization or any group of people to reach out to.

 

That can appreciate you for you. I think that's the difference. Right? Like, I can call people. But am I really calling people that are gonna help me?

 

Or am I just calling people that are gonna entertain me? You know? Not not and I'm not saying, like, make me have me watch a movie or whatever, entertain me, but, like, Placate me, entertain me.

 

Entertain with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But are they really listening to you? Do they really care what you have to say and what you're going through?

 

Right. And that's the difference. Speaking of that, let's take a break for a couple minutes. We'll dive more into that in the next segment, but we'll be right back on SDYT the podcast.

 

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Alrighty, folks. Welcome back to SDYT, the podcast again on Porter. I'm your host, so for everybody just tuning in. We've been talking with Carolyn Savadonis, all about this the psychology of your own design.

 

Right? How do you curate your life to balance self expression and processing yourself your emotions to then helping other people to process themselves and their emotions, meeting them where they're at and exhibiting compassion.

 

Sevy. Welcome back. How you doing?

 

Thank you. I'm good. Alright. Let's let's jump into this. So let's let's roll into this. There's 2 points that I wanna hit on in any order and it doesn't matter how we get to them. If you take time and this is a question for you, Savi.

 

If you take time to curate your life or in whatever mild little degree to curate your life in a way that makes you happy or able to process things mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and just be a better version of you.

 

And then you deploy. Now I I remember you said you didn't, but you've been on training missions and things too. So you know, you leave home for an extended period of time, whatever that is defined as -- Uh-huh.

 

-- and you come back, maybe it's prison. Maybe it's a deployment, maybe it's a work retreat, maybe it's studying abroad for college, whatever.

 

But you come back. Right? The the person you're who you married isn't the person you're married to anymore. The the friends you had earlier aren't the friends you have now, but they're all the same people.

 

They've just grown in a different direction, maybe than where you were. So how do you reassess, how do you reorient, how do you recommend managing that? To recurate to now what fits you and other people in that relationship?

 

Yeah. So I think it's a lot. It's very similar to how you would very a playlist. Right? Like, we don't all still listen to the same thing. I guess I'd still be a little bit the same thing he listen to, like, forever though.

 

You know what I mean? Sure. You know, he got it carried it and and took it sure that it's really hard sometimes especially when you are when it does come to family.

 

Right? So I recently distanced myself from my family. Because I just realized that every time we talk, it just brought me down.

 

I couldn't relate to them anymore. And it doesn't mean I don't let them. It doesn't mean that they don't love me, but it's just limiting the time that an effort that I couldn't do maintain that facility.

 

Suggests. Sure. And for me, it's, like, not really happy of at all acknowledging that they feel so perfect and we're not gonna be able to meet halfway. And sometimes it's just acknowledging us. Just being able to it's it's hard.

 

It's really hard to acknowledge that this isn't this isn't gonna work anymore. You know, this doesn't see my value of New York and and moving on. And the last time those deletions don't even have to end badly.

 

Nothing bad. Like, my last relationship said I was in Roman relationship. Great person. Amazing. Amazing. There's so many great things to me. I said so many great things for her.

 

It just takes the point where I sat down, you know. I had a I had a defective episode, and I was reevaluating. And I was like, why do I wanna this person? Who is this person? Who do I wanna see with this person?

 

Can I be that person that I want them to be with? You know what I mean? Like, And it says, you gotta take the time to think about you, if you want to be able to curate the people around you and and the lifestyle that you want.

 

You you gotta take the time. I think that the love I think that the people people forget is that you do have to take the time and effort to do. It's not just gonna come to you like that. You know? Take the time.

 

Take the break. Have the conversation. I think that they see if people are so scared to talk and facing because they don't wanna pitbull and they don't wanna bring up conflict or con you know, or complication and and whatnot.

 

That I feel like when you hold off from talking to you especially like your partner that you're with, when you hold off from talking to them, then you end up making all these assumptions. And a lot of times, that's not fair to them.

 

It's not fair to your wife that, you know, you set all the time on deploy, and now you're coming back. And it's not fair that you're not taking the time to have this talked about what happened while I was gone?

 

Like, where are you at now? Whether your husband dreams now. It's not fair enough for you to just to assume that you know what's going on.

 

And you're probably gonna have a lot of those responses, those negative responses. And if you don't take the time to be compassionate, and generally wanting to know where that person is at now, then you're gonna always have conflict.

 

Let's say you sit down now and you have that conversation, you guys kind of know where you at.

 

That's when you gotta figure out if that's still what you want and you guys still cuss of us, and that's still being each other's lives without hugging 1 another or, you know, not harming, but, you know Right.

 

Honestly. Part of it? Yeah. Well, and that's tough too.

 

Right? Obviously, acknowledging it if there are those types of realizations in a relationship that maybe this isn't working out. But on the other hand, what if you just don't know what to say? What if you just don't know what to ask?

 

Right? Like, how do you I guess what I'm saying is how do you know when to ask for help or when to ask to reassess and reevaluate, like or on the flip side, the other partner who's been there and hasn't been away for a while.

 

How do you know when to offer or when somebody's ready to talk? You know, what are these types of indications look like? Just do it. Hey. How are you?

 

Good. Yeah. Don't ever think it. I think it doesn't have to be the complicated, like, crazy thing, you know, whatever. It's just feeling as bad that there's something I think we all can feel, like, if there's a certain question.

 

I feel like I'm a I'm a little bit over sensitive when it comes to feeling, like, when there's a cushion or something's off, you you mean another person.

 

Mhmm. But I think we often try to kind of feel it. I don't think we're all at worthiest. Like, you know, again, when you see someone who's having, like, certain negative responses to you, you know, like showing up late seems snappy.

 

Things like that, I think you can know, like, that's the kind to ask to evaluate. Or, like, when you feel like you're being could be or you're being grumpy or you're in a bad mood or you you can't get out of my cell.

 

That's a crime to ask for help. And if you're okay, give a minute to talk, how are you? And genuinely wanting to know how that person is. Or it can be something simple.

 

It's just bringing up a topic, bringing up a memory. Seeing where that conversation can lead to. But if you just overthink it and you're like, you know, whatever it is, I guess, you know, it's normal as humans over the same.

 

So 1 of the things that I learned in therapy in DBT, which is dialectical behavioral therapy, I I recommend learning these skills for anybody. If you're close people with borderline personnel, I just ordered it.

 

And post traumatic stress disorder. But it really needs to be for anybody. And you can you guys can look it up online all aspects of behavioral therapy, CBC, 1 of the cells that we learned called fear, man.

 

And it's basically a way to figure out where you wanna be with in relationship with somebody. And so you literally sit down and write out a letter to somebody what you wanna say.

 

Basically, write out the conversation so that you know when you go past the conversation with a person, you know the topic's point. And you know what you wanna get out of it.

 

That's the key point. And where do you wanna get out of this conversation? Do you want to end the relationship? Do you want to mend the relationship? Or, you know, do you want them do you want us to abound you with that person?

 

And so this is for you to process. Correct. Yeah. Okay. You can have the conversation, actually, or you can end up not even needing to have the conversation, station because you figured out where you are.

 

And it's hard because not everybody is going to be open to to talking. And being not open. I understand that. Just to at least know where you stand as a person in the relationship, then you can navigate.

 

And and start that security process. Well, this person isn't even willing to meet me where I'm trying to meet them halfway or whatever then you already know the answer that it's just going in the way.

 

And don't think of personally. Maybe they're just not ready to acknowledge and get help for certain things.

 

Maybe they can't because of all the biases and sicknesses and stuff. Like, you you see that a lot in the military. Right? You come back -- Mhmm. -- an appointment or and they're just not ready to talk about it.

 

These are reactions that they're just causing and maybe as a staff and as a leash ship in a marriage. Right? You can have compassion in knowing that if your husband is staffing at you, it's not you.

 

It's his response to something that he dealt with self employed. Once you separate that, separate the personal stuff from that, then I think it's easier to cope with, you know?

 

And eventually that person I think hopefully will want to talk about it. Or because even if it's not talking to you, but seek help them how to deal with that frozen ocean on their own so that you guys can mend your relationship.

 

And get to know each other again. Do you gotta put in work? You gotta put in an effort?

 

You're not gonna happen just overnight, you know. Yeah. A lot of people think that going to therapy is, like, sitting on a couch talking. It's not. Yeah. It's not. Therapy is facing us here, talking about issues.

 

Driving in the south. Even if you can't call your therapist what it is. Like, I think it's not us acknowledging our staff and our peers and our commas and I think is the speed to be then being able to see that in other people.

 

You know what I mean? Yeah. I guess it would be easier if you understand you're feeling and how to verbalize it that then you could better, I guess, conceptually understand somebody else too, because then you have a better baseline.

 

In trying to build relationships with other people or men relationships with people that you've already had them started with, that there's a line in the sand between expressing yourself.

 

Maybe even in a hostile, abrasive, argumentative type fashion because that's how you're getting it out.

 

But expressing yourself and your emotions in a way that is genuine to how you feel they need to be expressed without belittling or invalidating somebody else.

 

In the process. I think that's a difficult balancing act sometimes too, though.

 

It really is. You know, especially you've gotten exceeded discussions and arguments. And that's when I feel like like, if you feel like something is getting there's a discussion where someone is getting too good.

 

It does not stay back setting anywhere. Like, you know, you're you're crossing each other's boundaries. You're saying things that may probably shouldn't be saying.

 

Not sure to be saying, but the consequences of what you're saying might hurt or harm your staff or the other person has take a breath and then reevaluate wherever you want this conversation to go.

 

Mhmm. Yes. It's the goal of the conversation. And that's when you have to reevaluate, readjust to a checkpoint.

 

You know? Yeah. If it's not to do that setting where you need to go, need to get, then you need to stop, pick a freezer, you need to let go of that anger, you need to yell, I'm a yower, right now I'll tell you who I am.

 

So instead of yelling at the person, you know, obviously, if I'm yelling at the person and that's at a not good communication.

 

Sure. A good way to communicate that I want them to be just by yelling. But that's what I was taught to do as a child. No. I found it trying to be yelling at each other and I thought that's the only way I knew how to do it.

 

But I'm still, yeah, still, like, still a way that I deal with my most with my anger, my sadness, my frustration. I'm very young at a person, like, also my car, block easy, and I will fucking yell.

 

Just ask if I didn't know. No. I it's alright. Uh-huh. And just now while and so I can get to her somewhere, like, okay. Now I can say the words, use my words that I need to know in a way that it's gonna be received better.

 

A lot of that just comes with experience. You start arguing with somebody today and having a discussion with somebody right now. You don't need finish that argument.

 

You know, nobody needs to win that shit right now. You guys can and the only way that you actually win an argument with somebody is when both people can finally reach some sort of agreement whether to agree to disagree or whatever.

 

That's the whirlwind. But if you feel like you went in the other person lost, then you screwed in lost too because that's Yeah. Nothing was gone. The point of communicating with somebody. Yeah. Yeah. That's a valid point.

 

Even if yelling is your preferred means of communicating at that point in time, may not be the most effective way that somebody else is willing to receive it at that point in And that's that's the balance, I suppose, which also requires a certain amount of compassion, I think, to understand how you're coming across not just how you want to come across.

 

Good point. Good point. You know what? I think this is a good opportunity speaking of communicating and getting to know people. How about you just sort of lay it on the line for for our listeners here?

 

How do people follow-up with you get in touch with you get involved into Chevy Beauty, what are your outlets, what are your sites, what are your handles, profiles, platforms.

 

Let me just give you the floor, and you can you can promote for a bit.

 

It's it's yours. Yeah. So what I like I said in the beginning, I love the cost because it really gave me a way to kind of curate the escape for me, please. So on to talk, I'm very transparent. I like to do all the fun.

 

I like to do the makeup. I'm it's the humor, I'm clear as AS. And so, like, I I feel like that created that community for me that space for me there, So if you guys wanna follow me on sick path, I will follow that.

 

I'm pretty great at that. It's Faith, EEVI. You will Charlie echo Victor India. I am military listeners, and so it is funny. And I think I could spend that Cilly and connect with people.

 

I cry on there, I eat off on there, silly and stuff. And so let's just do what I find a a safe place to be, and I'd love to get to know more people and and to be on that. I think that's a great platform.

 

You guys, I just started my my business here in Gwaines. I am on a walkie in San Diego. I do have a physical location, but I also can be remote deaf, so anybody's interested in Facebook or learning more about skin care and stuff.

 

I'm actually specializing in thin skin care -- Mhmm. -- because I think men really neglect to their skin, and they feel that it's good to go with things too.

 

But I'm actually coming up with a milk bourbon and buying facial just for men. Sounds good. With an old passion. Nice. And the guy I think he couldn't talk to you.

 

He's already stopped, like, got blemishes. You got acne. You got ingrown hairs in your beard. It's better of yourself, man. It's okay. You gotta feel good with yourself in order feel good with somebody else and other people.

 

I feel like when you feel good with yourself whether it's appearance wise or expecting, you don't have to like it. Accepting things too that you can connect.

 

So, yeah, do you guys need any I I will do, like, videos, like, 01:01? Like, discussions and stuff. So on my Instagram, you guys can schedule appointments if you guys are here at Oahu you guys wanna do virtual appointments now.

 

Thank you COVID for making that such a a great thing where we can connect virtually even from freight distance.

 

So it's TEVI dot beauty on Instagram, and that's gonna let me stay there. And I'd like to talk to people about kinda take care of themselves.

 

It's still good. Yeah. Perfect. And again, for everybody listening both of those profiles, TikTok, you'll be able to see in some of these clips advertising for this interview.

 

And then Sevi Beauty for Instagram and obviously your Facebook as well are tagged in these ads.

 

So people can get in touch with you that way as well. Do you have an email address, anything like that if people need or prefer to use emails?

 

If people prefer to use emails, it pays CEVI001 at gmail. Easy. So they're also linked on my tech talk and on my Instagram, see so. Okay. He's not there. He told me to reach out that way. And yeah.

 

Both of you guys if anybody wants to continue talking about even, like, design, like, even though I don't see the interior design digits anymore, it still don't be cost in mind if the site takes tips and tricks on how to make your bathroom look better, feel better.

 

I'm more than willing to talk to anybody about it.

 

You guys have any more questions about CDC and therapy. You know, I'm more than willing to help anybody get the resources that they need. Like, if they're scared to go to therapy, you know, feel like that stigma and stuff.

 

I'm here to tell you right now about it and and go, you know, and you want to reach out and talk to me first and to find the the right outlet for you, then let me know.

 

And I'm more than willing to help out I'm so proud of you. Look at how far you've come in the last couple years. That's wild. Good for you. Good for you.

 

I'm kind of used to. It's okay. You can do it. I definitely been just many years since we've actually, like, sat down and had a had a conversation. I think the last time we had a a legit sit down conversation was at Duffy's Yeah.

 

Probably. Probably. Well, you know what? There's plenty other opportunities for interviews in the future too. So I'd love to have you back on if you got the opportunity in your schedule.

 

Yeah. For sure. Absolutely. I love it. And, you know, throughout things like, you know, that you guys take That'd be cool. Skincare. Yeah. I'm I'm all about it, but I don't know enough about it to do much.

 

So, yeah, definitely. We'll be in touch. To all of our listeners. Thank you for tuning in and listening to the conversation as well. Feel free to check out Chevy and all of our profiles and businesses.

 

Highly recommend it Otherwise, for the time being again, Savvy, thank you and to our listeners, thank you. With that, folks on Porter, I'm your host, and that was SDYT to podcast. Right. You haven't even told us the name yet.

 

What are we supposed to tell our families? Older metadata, have you considered a blockchain. And then when are we supposed to tell all our friends anyway? Already going to ensure that all of the listeners know where to find anything.

 

Harry am I supposed to tune in to a podcast that I've saved to my library. And now is a different name. How are people going to find what were the episodes? Why are they changing the name to begin with?

 

What about the listeners? Well, now guys, guys. I got it. Alright. It's gonna be a phased approach. We're gonna ensure between April and what's going to be our July 4 interview and the SDYT the podcast to transacting value.

 

It fits better. It fits our market, it fits our niche, it fits our intentions better. It's still, real people, with different perspectives talking over shared values.

 

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