It's a byproduct of, like, really working on your your body, like, going to the gym and working out and doing squats and all of that. Yeah. That's gonna get you a nice body.

But it's also gonna create more discipline. It's also gonna carry over in the other areas of your life when it comes to your career, when it comes to your finances, when it comes to your ability of can I do that?

Well, yes, I can because I did this. I lost 50 pounds. So if I could lose 50 pounds, and I can put some discipline into doing that, then imagine all the other things that I can do.

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So which social media platforms? What social media is and how any of those particular individuals socialize the values that they bring to the table.

But today, we're talking to the founder of the get your sexy back movement, Carla Palmer. So without further ado, folks on Porter, your host. And this is transacting value.

Alright, Carla. How are you? How's your afternoon? It's great. Thank you so much for having me on. Well, thanks for coming on. I appreciate it. I know you're in California, so I assume in Southern California.

Right? I say I'm Los Angeles. That's right. Yeah. So for everybody listening, Carla and I spoke a little bit before this conversation, but all things considered at least in my head, we're still pretty much strangers.

So, Carla, for a little bit of relatability here, I'd like to start out really just in the beginning of any conversational relationship.

Who are you? Where are you from? What kinds of things have shaped your perspective? I am originally from Tulsa, Oklahoma.

I grew up there. I was in Tulsa for 19 years. Uh-huh. And then I relocated to Los Angeles. So I've been here for over 31 years. And who am I? I am a mom. I am a proud mom. I was a single mom. My son is 23.

And when I say, proud mom, I I really mean that because when I look at him, I can see that some of my values have definitely translated over to how he rates in life, and that just makes me really happy and proud as a parent.

I'm a philanthropist. We talked a little bit this the other day. I am a philanthropist.

I really believe in giving back and making an impact whether it is financially, you know, with your monetary giving or through your time or your talents, anything that you have skills at that you could share with other people to make their lives better.

I am a philanthropist, and I am also a director of development.

So I work for a nonprofit organization and I raised funds for LA County Foster youth, and I love the lord. I'm a cushion. That should've been a first. Well, you know, maybe maybe not.

Right? Because as humans, we really can't help but be selfish creatures. It's the humility we gotta develop. So are you gonna do? But I gotta say, when you brought up philanthropy, the first thing that comes to my mind anyways is money.

So when you said, Well, maybe not money but time and maybe not time but skills and maybe any combination of those things. I mean, you've turned it into a movement. Your philosophy, your outlook on life, your perspective. Right?

So what what is this get your sexy back movement all about? So GYSB is shortened. Right? UISB is a movement that I started oh, gosh. Almost 15 years ago. So it was a movement that I started I didn't know I was starting this movement.

I was in this unhealthy relationship with somebody who I thought I was madly in love with wanted to support and grow together in life, and I found out that he was a cheater. And so in that relationship, I lost my sis.

For life. Before I met him, I was vibrant. I was sexy. I knew I was sexy. I knew I had it going on. And I've gotten this relationship. And over time, it just kind of chipped away at my happiness and my joy.

And at a certain point, I wasn't tapping into that joy reservoir that I knew how to tap into because I was so focused on this other person, making sure his life was good, making sure my financial needs were met as a single mom and his as well, because he couldn't always take care of it himself because he was a musician.

And if you think about musicians, their money's kinda high and low because sometimes they have a gig and sometimes they don't.

And that was his sole way of making money. And so I got lost in being sure that he was happy, taking care of him. I had 2 jobs, I was really just doing, like, the wrong way. Mhmm. And I looked up and I had gained all this weight.

I had gained a significant amount of weight, like, over 50 pounds. In this relationship that lasted almost 3 years. And I got a little angry. And I was like, what happened to you? Like, how did you let yourself get to this point?

Mhmm. And I said, you know what? I'm a get him back. I'm a get this guy back. I'm gonna lose weight. I'm like, he's super hot and super sexy the way that I looked when he met me. And then I'll break up with him.

So that was the goal. It was like this Yeah. It was like a revenge plan. Right? Yeah. It took me about a year to lose the pounds. And I was jumping rope and doing all kinds of things, but really my main thing was jumping rope.

I teach jump rope fitness now too. And about halfway through, I realized that not just the physical weight needed to go, this dead weight needed to go, and that was him.

Right? And I didn't I didn't realize that until I started getting more connected with me, like, internally and what I liked and what made me happy.

And I decided halfway through that I didn't have anything else to give the relationship nor did I need to seek revenge on this person. And I broke up with him.

And then I continued on with this way of, like, doing life differently to get my zest back, and it just kept coming back. And I kept getting happier and happier and learned how to tap back into my joy reservoir and be a better parent.

And I started posting on Facebook about how I was doing life and how I was so happy and how the way it was coming off, and people were looking and paying attention, and they were being inspired.

And so then they started I was like, oh, have they said, oh, you lost a lot of weight. And I'm like, yeah, I got my sexy back.

You no, GYSB baby. Get a sexy back too. That's what you wanna do. So it was just like a little catchy thing that I was saying, and it caught on and people started posting on their Facebook. GYSB baby, and then I got t shirts.

Like, it just became this movement. And I felt so good. I felt good because I was helping other women who may have or may not have been in the same situation that I was in, but they were stuck somewhere.

And for me to be able to see the influence that I was making with my own personal testimony, this felt really good. And like I said, I'm a philanthropist at heart.

And so for me to give that way on social media, be vulnerable, about my testimony, about my experience, in this dead end relationship, It just felt good to give back in that way, and that's how the movement started.

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Know who you are, know what stand for and learn from others, but most importantly, dance to the rhythm of your own clogs and don't forget to be your own auto too. This felt really good.

And like I said, I'm a philanthropist at heart. And so for me to just give that way on social media, be vulnerable, about my testimony, about my experience, in this dead end relationship, it just felt good to give back in that way.

And that's how the movement started. So GYSP focuses on helping women. Right now, I'm in my fifties.

So it's women in their fifties. But if you're in your thirties or your sixties, you can still benefit from the movement. But my core audience is women in their fifties, helping them to elevate to their next level of optimal living.

What does optimal living mean? It means in an overall holistic approach to wellness, mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually relationshiply.

I know that's not a word, but that's what we're using today. Where do you need to get your sexy back? All of those areas are not gonna areas where you're on a hundred percent or you're on a level 10.

There's gonna be 1 of those areas where you need to focus on getting your sexy back. So that's what it means. Well, just to play a little devil's advocate here, Carla, women aren't the only ones that need to get sexy again.

Right? Right. Now, so I I get for the record. What you're saying, and your primary audience, namely who you tend to relate more with being women, and I totally get that.

But I'm not. I'm a dude, and I'm listening to your message, and I'm like, holy cow, man. Like, you're totally right. And This joy reservoir that you talked about your perspective on life, and connecting with yourself to identify it.

I think resonates with everybody or at least at 1 point in everybody's life, the realization that they've lost it, maybe is what resonates more.

But you brought it up as a way to I don't wanna say selfish like it's a bad thing, but as a way to focus on you in order to give back to other people.

Right? Like, it's it's difficult to fill up somebody else's cup of water when yours is empty. So Exactly. Exactly. Sometimes you just gotta figure out how to glue the mug together hold enough water to help somebody else.

Right? But you can't do it with a broken cup. Right. Yeah. And I I think it's admirable. I don't mean to pry too much here and is maybe a little bit more personal than where this was initially gonna go.

But I think it's a perfect opportunity. And so this is a segment of the show called developing character. E developing character.

Now, it's 2 questions, and for everybody listening, if you're unfamiliar, Carla, you can answer as in-depth or as vulnerable as you want, and if any of your answers happen to be, I don't know, or I never thought about it, let's find 2, no harm no foul.

So This first question though, let's call it for relation, I suppose.

Your primary audience may be sort of in the middle of life. But it certainly isn't the only audience you're reaching as I already alluded to. So what were some of your values growing up?

Let's say, as a teenager? Self respect for 1, that was really important to me. And it was at a time, you said a teenager. So I'm going back to my teenage years, and that was a a time of exploration.

Right? Kind of coming of age, peer pressure to have boyfriends and do boyfriend, girlfriend things, and I was really adamant about saving myself until I was 18.

Smart? I was really adamant about that. I mean, I don't know. I think maybe it was, like, foundational, like because I grew up in the church, and I just wanted a good reputation.

I wanted a good reputation, you know, for my family. My dad was a pastor, and so self respect family was really important to me, family values, and community.

I think they kind of went together for me because as a family, we were a tight knit family. There were it's my mom, my dad, my 2 brothers, and my sister.

And we didn't have a lot of money, but we had a lot of love. And we really enjoyed each other. And back to respect and family, my mom did not let my brother and I. We are a year apart.

We could not fight. We could not fight. Couldn't fight. We could not argue. We could not no. We couldn't call each other stupid. We couldn't say shut up to each other. Like, it was that she knew she was not playing. Whoa.

This lady was not playing, which is great because, you know, I hear stories right now, like my friends who are my age, and how traumatic some of their experiences were with their siblings and how they just fought, like, cats and dogs, and some of it was borderline abusive.

My mom just wasn't having it.

It was all about respect and love for family. And those are values that I still hold true to today. So it was respect, it was family, it was community, and it was giving back. I mean, my dad was a pastor and unity.

I don't know if you've heard of the 19 21 massacre in Tulsa in the Greenwood district, but my dad's church was in that area, and that was an area that was just decimated completely, and it never really got back to where it was.

But at 1 point, it was thriving black communities. Anything you could think of business wise, it was air in the Greenwood District in Tulsa.

Was that they call it Black Wall Street? Mhmm. I yeah. I'm familiar at least a little bit. But, yeah, thriving markets everything. Absolutely. And they bombed it.

Yeah. Until it wasn't. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Until it wasn't. So my dad's church, which still stands today, was over in that area. And like I said, you know, it never really got back to a thriving community the way that it was.

And so there were a lot of people who went to our church who didn't have a lot. And as a pastor and the family of the pastor, we always gave to those people. People needed rights to church.

We gave to them. People needed food. We gave to them. People needed gas money to get to church. We gave to them. People's kids needed clothes. My we didn't have a lot of money, but my mom would go shop at the goodwill.

Mhmm. Right? And get close for us and for them and for those kids. So it was just, you know, those values of family respect, giving back socially and community, they were really important to me and they still are today.

I was gonna say it doesn't sound like much has changed, but in the event it might have, let's roll to question 2 real quick.

What are some of your values now? I use now. Honestly, they really are pretty much the same. They really are. I mean, if you look at the work that I do, I'm a I have a found movement. Get your sexy back movement.

Right? Mhmm. GYSP giving back to other people and trying to help other people live a better life. So that's me giving my my time and my my talent. I also am a director of development for a nonprofit here in Los Angeles, California.

And we work with transition to age foster youth. So those foster youth who are aging out of foster care, they run a risk of being homeless because they don't have anywhere to go.

And so we have transitional housing for them, and then we also work with Boster youth who are still in foster care with their caregivers starting from age sixth grade all the way through senior year in high school and then on to a college degree.

And so, I'm still giving back.

Even though it's my job and I do get paid to do it -- Yeah. -- I've been doing this for 20 years. November will make 20 years for me. And so as you can see, thank you. I am still in the mindset of philanthropy.

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Even though it's my job and I do get paid to do it, Yeah. I've been doing this for 20 years. November will make 20 years for me. And so as you can see, thank you. I am still in the mindset of philanthropy. But it's different. Right?

Like, if you didn't get paid for it, you're still passionate about it. So it's not like you would stop. Now, I mean, here's an example, not to dive into the metrics or the numbers or anything, but you're on Instagram, GYSB movement.

Right? Like, you're all over the place, doing all sorts talking about fitness and talking about how to help people, which is great.

But whether fact or fiction, let's just say that doesn't matter for right now. Let's just pretend even if it's not true, that GYSB makes absolutely 0 money, and it costs you money each month and puts you in the hole.

Let's just say that's our baseline. A hypothetically or not is irrelevant. So if that's true though, you still do it. You're still passionate about it. Still do it? Yeah. It's it's do it and I love it.

Right. And so it's it's not always about the money. 1 thing you mentioned though that I think is pretty interesting is its intentional living. You made a conscious decision to rely on your values, your perspective, your upbringing.

Obviously, sort of transmute that to your son but also to all of these people you've helped. At work through Instagram, anybody that they've talked 2, second and third order down the line, all stemmed from you and your perspective.

Right? So it's sort of like you brought up earlier. Talking about the Tulsa massacre, for example.

The impact of that event on your perspective, you weren't there obviously, but the impact of that event on your perspective as it sounds like influenced you to a point where you're able to relate that energy and ambition and drive and just zeal for life, All these other people you've come in contact with.

Right? Just because there's a sort of negative input doesn't always mean there's a negative outcome. Now it may take some time to heal. It certainly doesn't always mean there's a negative outcome.

And so when we're talking about intentional living, you said your values of family, your values while a family and community, I suppose. You've taken them and translated them into fitness, essentially a workout program. Right?

So I think when I hear or when I heard, as I was younger, values, and character, and all these other sort of spiritual things, that like, I guess image in my head was I had to have my hair parted on the side and just a proper gentleman's type cut with a polo buttoned up to the top in a real proper presentable way in public.

It was just a polished kind of way of living. And I think I've learned that it's okay to be a little grungier, so to speak. You know what I mean? You can be rough around the edges and still stand behind what you stand for.

And present your values and have a strong character. What experiences in your life have you had that you've translated into a positive outcome for your perspective? I would say, too many.

I have a few. I can give you, let's see, 1. I was working at a bank. When I that was my first job when I moved to LA at 19. First job begged the person to hire me. So I worked at this bank for years, and I kinda moved up in the bank.

I was there for 5 years, and I ended up getting robbed at the bank. I got robbed. At gum point, it was very traumatic very traumatic experience. I mean, this happened to more than once.

I've been robbed 6 times. In my life. 5 times we're at the bank. Whoa. But the last yeah. The last time it happened, I could not bear it anymore anymore. It was it for me. It was at a time when the banks didn't have the glass.

Oh, yeah. That was up and didn't feel as safe. So this last time that we got robbed, I was a vault supervisor, and I was coming out of the vault to give the tellers their money for their drawers for the day.

Right? So as I was coming out, it was early in the morning, and I could tell that the bank had been being watched because they kind of knew, like, what time we opened and, like, when we give out the money and everything.

Mhmm. So I'm coming out of the vault. There's a side door. These people come in. These 2 guys come in with guns. They put the gun up to the security guard's head, and then they hop over the teller part.

Right? But they don't see me. I don't know how they don't see me. So I go back into the vault, I shut the door. They're out there robbing the teller drawers because I had given out the money already.

They're out there robbing the tellers I'm yes. I am in this vault. I find this little table. I crawl up underneath the table. This might be TMI, but I Seriously, I, like, I peed all over the place. I was so scared.

Yeah. And then the branch manager comes after a few minutes. It sounded seemed like a long time, but she came in and she was like, Carla, Carla, where are you? And I'm under this little table. And she sees me, and I get up.

I'm shaking. And I was like, I can never I will never work here again. I will never come back to this branch. I will never go on the bank again. I am completely done, but I didn't have anything to do with my life. Right.

Because when I moved to LA from Tulsa, I wanted to be an actress. I didn't really wanna go to school. So I had only enrolled in college because I told my parents I'd enroll in school if they let me move to California to live in my aunt.

But I didn't really wanna go to school. I just wanted to be an actress. But then I found when I was in LA that acting wasn't really what I wanted to do because it was not lining up with my morals and values.

It wasn't. Mhmm. Some of the things that I was being asked to do and I would go on audition, some of the things that I would wear, some of the scenes that I would have been in, they didn't align with the way that I was raised.

And I didn't feel like it would be respectful to my family or to myself to be in certain things.

And so I walked away from wanting to do acting. So I didn't have anything to do. I was just working at this bank that was my livelihood. Yeah. So and you're saying, how did I turn something that was, you know, negative into a positive?

I was enrolled in school because that's what I promised my parents, but I wasn't doing well. But as I, you know, was going to therapy because I was traumatized.

I had to go to therapy, Yeah. I kept saying, I'm not that smart. I'm not that smart. I I just I don't know if school is for me. And I talked to her for months, and she said, You know what? You are smart.

You are very intelligent. I think you should give school a try. I think you should go and you should focus and see what happens. And so I decided to do that. Already focused it tight and we'll be right back on transacting value.

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And so I decided to do that. And I went I was in community college, and I started going to get tutoring. I started talking to my professors, and I decided that I can kinda get better grades than what I was getting.

So I started getting a's. That was all I was getting at that point, all my classes. Then I ended up graduating getting my AA degree.

And I was, like, Maybe I could go to a 4 year. There you go. So then I started applying to 4 year institutions. I got into every school I applied for. Hey. UCLA. U c Berkeley, UC Irvine, the Cal states.

And so I was like, what? Then I'm going to, like, 4 years, and I can go to a good 1. UC Berkeley is a good school. Yeah. And so it was me and a friend of mine, and we both got into UCLA and UC Berkeley.

And she said, well, what do you wanna do? And I was like, wanna go to Berkeley. She wanted to go to UCLA. We took a coin, we flipped it, heads it was Berkeley, tails it was UCLA.

We ended up going to Berkeley. I went to Berkeley. I got no less than an A in any class. I graduated from UC Berkeley as a valedictorian of my class. Nice. And That's how I took a negative situation and turned it into a positive.

Damn. Got it back in the end. I'll look at you. Congratulations. That's huge. And it's tough, man. It is absolutely tough. I think the awareness might even be the hardest part though.

Right? Because it's easy to bury stuff, trauma, especially. And then you just sort of, you know, float with the current of whatever that caused or whatever sort of turbulence might have come about.

Right? So how did you, I guess, identify your value then? How did you start building back? The therapy really did help. I had a really good therapist. She really listened.

We talked about things that happened you know, as I was growing up embarrassing moments on stage, you know, when I couldn't answer a question in a beauty pageant that I was asked because I didn't really understand how they were asking the question, and I totally blanked and was, like, I don't know.

And the whole room is, like, Wow. She's stupid. And that's that's how it felt.

Yeah. Me, you know, misspelling chief in an eighth grade spelling bee in front of the whole school -- Yeah. -- and feeling like an it. And so she was able to kinda help me process through some of those things.

And I think I started to feel better about my intellect and my ability to maybe be able to get through college. So I think it was a lot of that. It was a lot of processing through that.

And then It was just like, girl, what you gonna do? Mhmm. Okay? What else are you gonna do? Because they were trying to get me to do, like, go to, like, a trade school, I didn't really wanna go to, like, a trade school.

I wanted to do something that was, like, more like a career that you would get when you graduate from, like, a year college. Sure. And so I ended up doing that. And I majored in African American studies.

I wanted to go to law school, but then I had another thing that happened to me. I got pregnant right after graduation from college. So I'm validictorian, 1 month, 2 months later, I'm in the welfare line -- Mhmm.

-- because because I'm pregnant. So No law school for me. Oh. Yeah. Yep. And I don't wanna go, like, all into that because it's so long. It's so much information, but Resilient.

I am a resilient person very much so. That I know. Yeah. I'd say so. But, you know, the crazy thing is, again, despite all these situations, there's still ebbs and flows. Right? High points and low points through everybody's life.

It doesn't devalue what you bring to the table. In fact, in my opinion, it sorta refines what you bring to the table. Helps you identify what's important to you and sort of solidify all the things that you wanna stand behind.

I'll give you an example. I can totally relate to what you brought up earlier with chief. License. License was my downfall. Yeah. Yeah. 8 or ninth grade, it should have started with an s, right, not a c, but what are you gonna do?

I've learned since, which is good, Right? And that's a small example though, only to say that it doesn't matter what the setbacks are in her life.

Right? My son's 8. It'll be 9 soon, actually. And you know, how do you explain resilience to kids in ways that make sense or really any values?

In ways that make sense to kids, I think it's tough until you mature a little bit and you gain some life experience to better relate your perspective to. But I mean, you're on Instagram. I'm sure you you see it all the time.

People post, pick a account, pick a profile, Some sort of a picture though that represents a brand or represents an image of a product or service. That maybe doesn't align well with I don't know, modesty, let's call it.

Right? Or pictures of bikinis or dudes flexing or whatever applies. Just to promote something that seems a little bit more superficial. It's all over the place, especially Instagram though. So -- Mhmm. -- how do you combat that image?

I mean, you're in fitness. These are your almost direct competitors in some cases. You know, it it was hard at first because, especially when I first lost the 50 pounds. Like, I really, really have my sexy back, like, on 10.

Alright. And I yeah. I could've easily gone on Instagram in a bikini, turned around, showed my butt. You know? I've got a pretty nice butt. But that's not how long that's not what I want that's not what I wanted to promote.

What I wanted to promote is that sexy comes from within and you exude it in ways that are outside of the physical. And the way that I speak, the class that I exude, and the close I choose to wear.

And the the way that I interact with people, the way that I do life, you know. I feel like that more of an image of sexy that I wanna put out there than me showing my physical sense. And that makes me stand out from other people.

Right? So if that is my that is what my competition is doing. If they're showing their their boobs and their butts and turning around and doing all kinds of things, I'm doing the opposite, but I still am saying this is sexy.

And there are women out there, especially in the Christian community, who are like, I like that.

Yeah. That resonate. I resonate with that. That works for me. So I I know who my audience is. And for people who need the other, then I'm not their person, and I'm okay with that.

Now will I get as many followers as the person who might be doing that? Probably not. But that's okay because that's not the attention that I want. Already folks sit tight and we'll be right back on transacting value.

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Buzzprout can do that too. So I I know who my audience is. And for people who need the other, then I'm not their person, and I'm okay with that. Now will I get as many followers as the person who might be doing that?

Probably not. But that's okay because that's not the attention that I want. I really wanna make a different kind of impact on a deeper level than just having a decent body.

It's a byproduct of, like, really working on your your body, like, going to the gym and working out and doing squats and all of that. That's gonna get you a nice body, but it's also gonna create more discipline.

It's also gonna carry over in the other areas of your life when it comes to your career. When it comes to your finances, when it comes to your ability of, can I do that?

Well, yes, I can because I did this. I lost 50 pounds. So if I could lose 50 pounds and I can put some discipline into doing that, then imagine all the other things that I can do. I have had 5 promotions since I lost my weight.

I have gotten out of debt since I lost my weight. I have purchased investment property since I lost my weight. I have traveled to many countries since I lost my weight. It trickled over into other areas of your life.

And so for me, like, just being aesthetic, it's so much deeper than that for me. I don't know if there's a better way I could have tied up any of those points than what you just said. I'm not even gonna try.

I a hundred percent agree with exactly what you're saying. Right? Class counts for quite a bit. But a deeper understanding of yourself breeds self confidence and self esteem, and like you said, it just trickles into everything else.

Once you've proven to yourself, you have worth and you've identified what that is and how to value that, unstoppable. Yeah. It's unreal. Stopable.

Yeah. Well, so let me ask you this then, Carla, for the sake of time, if anybody wants to reach out to you, if they wanna get in touch with you, if they want I don't know, maybe it's speaking engagements or just comments on videos.

How do people get in touch with you? Yeah. So I can be found on all social media platforms that I'm on. I'm on YouTube. I'm on Instagram the most. I'm on TikTok and I'm also on Spotify and Apple Podcast.

So it's GYSP movement. It's how you find me on social media and how you find the podcast. It's GYSB talks. So GYSB moves, you know? She does her jump rope. She does all her hiking and all of that. Think she also runs her mouth.

She likes to talk. So GISB movement and GISB talks is how you can find me. And I'm on LinkedIn. If you wanna find me as a director of DEVEL for the nonprofit that I work for. I'm on LinkedIn as Carla Palmer.

And you know, on LinkedIn, LinkedIn to me can get a little boring and stale. And so what I do on LinkedIn is I will incorporate little fitness things in my LinkedIn post, and I'll link them back to WorkLife Harmony.

So that people understand, like, you can't just be working and working and working. You really have to insert some time for yourself, some time to rejuvenate, some time to, like, take it all in in nature.

So I incorporate those things into my LinkedIn post because it's really important that people understand that there is more to life than just working you have to also really take some time to to love on yourself, and that includes movement.

Oh, you certainly do. Yeah. And it's easy to get overwhelmed. There's so many other things that can take your attention without even realizing it.

And you just do. It becomes a routine and after a while, Like anything else, especially in fitness, incremental changes up or down are eventually going to make big changes up or down over time.

So Absolutely. Mhmm. Hundred percent. Well, again, I really appreciate the opportunity to to talk with you and and just hear your perspective a little bit. Let alone your story, which is absolutely unbelievable.

And for everybody listening, you gotta check out GYSB talks. There's so much more depth. And just quality of classy perspective, I think that you bring to the table in case nobody's told you, keep doing what you're doing.

I guess, is the only way I can sum that up. Thank you so much, Peter. Unreal. Unreal. And I actually gotta say, I love your podcast too.

Before I came on, you know, I was encouraged to listen to some of the past episodes. And I love the way you interview. You know, it's very warm, but you also, like, really get in there and you get some good information out of people.

And so I will continue to listen to your podcast. I will continue to take some tips from your interviewing skills. And I just appreciate you having me today, and I look forward to us staying connected.

And getting connected to, you know, some more people who are connected to you. So building that community, let's do it. That's it. That's it. And it's like you said when you got that tutor at you see Berkeley in the first place.

It's difficult to do things on your own until you've got other people helping you. And, yeah, that that's really what it's all about. So again, thank you very much.

And obviously, to all of your inputs, I think, ultimately, your friend and maybe her inability to flip to the right side of the coin, Because you being at UC Berkeley getting all your experience and all this exposure, and then all the lessons it sounds like your son has taught you as well.

I just wanna thank them because without them, This conversation, GYSB, your ability to what's the word philanthropize?

As well as you have been, wouldn't be anywhere near as impactful without those experiences, and obviously your ability to interpret them effectively.

So I also wanna just say, real quick. Thank you to all of those things, because without a negative side, we wouldn't know how good we have it otherwise.

But, folks, everybody listening I also wanna thank you for joining us for our May core values of unity, honor, and mental toughness. This was a super cool conversation. Thank you to all of Carla's experiences. Obviously, GAYSB movement.

Check it out all of that information. All Carla's links, that'll be in our show notes. So click see more, click show more, depending on what platform you prefer to listen to, and you'll see all the links in there as well.

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