People very often want to jump into the practical thing.

Like, how can I use this to do this data? And then, well, let's talk about them. That is first because If you don't know what you value now, you won't know what you value in the future, you won't know what direction you're going in.

So it really is I mean, this is the foundation of so many conversations we should be having. Alrighty folks. Welcome back to transacting value. We were encouraging dialogue from different perspectives to unite over shared values.

Our theme for season 4 is intrinsic values. So what your character is doing when you look yourself in the mirror? If you're new to the podcast, welcome. And if you're a continuing listener, welcome back.

Today, we're talking our April core values of growth, stewardship, and contentment with the futures alchemist, miss Charlotte Kemp. Charlotte's a futurist keynote speaker who works with organizations to create preferred futures.

Charlotte's the immediate past president of the Professional Speakers Association of Southern Africa, the President-elect of the Global Speakers Federation, and is a professional member of the Association of Professional Futurists.

Charlotte's also the author of a number of books, including Futur's Alchemist, which presents a narrative of how to use her map, compass, and guide model to navigate unknown futures.

Charlotte also serves on a number of association boards and steering committees and works as an association futurist.

She's also a chief relationship officer for voices into Africa, an events company seeking to raise the profile of speakers events and collaborations across Africa.

Shelly's signature talk is become the conscious futurist your industry needs now. And explores ways to intentionally create changes that will usher in our preferred future for our own industries.

So folks without further ado, I'm Porter. I'm your host, and this is transacting value. Alright, Charlotte. How are you doing? Very well. Thank you, Porter. Thank you very much for the invitation to share with you today.

Of course. Of course, you know, I I came across your profile online and there's a lot about Futures Alchemy that I wouldn't say is a commonplace topic of conversation, so I'm really excited to dive into this.

But before we really make any traction in the conversation, other people, namely our listeners, can't see who you are, maybe haven't heard of you or even global speakers anything.

So Let's just start with some relateability. Alright? Who are you? You know, where are you from? Where do you live? And maybe, what are some things that have shaped your perspective? Oh, lovely. Thank you very much for that.

So I'm in Living in Cape Town in South Africa, which is a very far away from you, but it is a beautiful part of the world. And if any of your listeners ever get a chance to visit Cape Town, you will not regret it.

It's a it's a lovely just lovely environment. It's got nature and mountains and oceans and restaurants that are just absolutely welcome. But I also like to travel myself.

So a part of my work as a futurist is to try and get some understandings of different perspectives and ways that we look at the future and how we think about things and what our values are in terms of the future we're creating.

And then I bring that back to my audiences. So I'm very intentional about trying to network and engage with people across the world.

And so my work is that a professional speaker has been very helpful in that regard. And potential speakers are just amazing because they all have we're all so different.

We've got different topics and different values and different business models. And different religions and politics. But we all have the shared value of having something in our hearts and minds that we wanna share with an audience.

Just like podcast is used. So the speaking world has been really amazing. And I like to serve in associations and the speaking world.

And that's why I've been very privileged to have, you know, elected to be the president's elected at the moment after global speaker's Federation. Which is designed internationally to kind of connect to a different association.

Different associations? Like, what are you referring to? Different professional speaking association. So around the world, there are a different regional or national speaking association.

So in the United States, there is a national speakers association. There's 1 in the U. K. And in Canada, and Malaysia, Singapore, and New Zealand, and obviously, in Southern Africa.

And there's just a growing number of these associations and they're designed to get both people who speak publicly that want to make us more of a profession, to bring them together, to share insights, to share encouragement and support, to raise the standards of the professional work that we're doing.

And then to the global fee acceleration, we kind of denied all those France, regional and national bodies so that we can help with some reciprocity and some sharing of knowledge and information.

Reciprocity in terms of coverage? If a monthly yeah.

So if a person is a member of 1 association, so I'm a member of Professional Speakers Association of Southern Africa, That means that because PSA is a member of the global speaker's Federation, if I go to a conference in the United States 1, the United Kingdom, then I can get member rates, then I can get engaged, connected with the members there.

So a lot of that is about collaboration and sharing, which, you know, for me, is this 1 of the serious studies in my life and 1 of the things that associations completely personify in terms of bringing people together so that we can collaborate to create more value in our world.

I see. And this is your full time job as a professional speaker? No. My full time job is is a futurist and a speaker tutor.

All the work that's done for the association, for the global status federation, all of that is kind of volunteer work on the site. Oh, wow. That sounds like it would take up the majority of your time. Yeah. It does take a lot of time.

Yeah. Okay. But, you know, the thing about associations in terms of their values is that peers come together to co create a body Instead of seeing each other's competition, we're coming together to find ways to collaborate.

And that really makes it a much stronger environment and and better for the position. And it's like we kind of take turns with the leadership at him.

And so in my local association, I was vice president, president to late president, immediate vice president, and then I stepped off the board and other people have come behind me and it's a downturn.

So the association is constantly changing and evolving to reflect kind of characteristics of their current leadership and the needs of their membership.

And that's just it's just such a constantly evolving, responsive place, which is very powerful.

Well, that's sort of the mark of any societies that progresses. Right? It's just gonna reflect that society's whatever values moral character preferences, whatever.

Right? That's right. So then so moving from this organization, there's another, I think, relatively large elephant in the room here. You said you're a full time futurist. Yep. What is that? What does that mean?

I'm a professional future because I study and I work in this space. I'm a member of the association and I write book So this is a profession that I embody, but my position is that every 1, every human is a natural future.

And what I mean by that is that we all anticipate the future. We all have ambitions or plans for the future.

If we stage for retirement, if we planned a holiday, if we thought about our own professional or personal developments, or if we cut children and we put money aside for their education, we have invested in the future.

So we're all natural future. What a professional future does is looks at various models, business models and other academic models and other analogies and helps us to find ways to think about the future in more helpful ways.

And that is a mindset of picture that we have.

It's 1 scenario of the future. That is future as we can teach people to create different scenarios. So that they can prepare for a potentially negative scenario as well as prepare for a potentially awesome future scenario.

And that kind of mindset shift is very powerful for us to intentionally craft and create the futures that we actually want rather than the ones that we're trying to avoid.

Oh, sure. Well, what you focus on then ideally becomes more positive, but you know it's still negative. Yeah.

Of course. So to be able to do that though, Obviously, I'm a little bit more biased, but to be able to do that, I think you need to understand at least who you are as a person and where your biases lie, which are okay if you have them.

But where they lie, and then better gain an understanding of your value system and how you perceive the world. Right?

So you have a better idea how to inject your perspective to a maybe a greater societal progression or just for yourself, your lineage, whatever. Right? So Before we dive into some of that, let's roll into this first segment of the show.

It's called developing character, developing character. That's a series of 3 questions. And you can answer them as vulnerability or in-depth as you prefer. It's entirely up to you, but they are time driven sort of questions.

Right? So The first question, if we jump into the past, what were some of your personal values growing up maybe as a teenager? Interesting. When I was younger, I didn't think too much of my value.

I think I inherited a number of value and I don't know how much you know of South Africa's history that I grew up in the apartheid years. So now I went to school we were still in in the wife only school.

So we had some inherited values that were taught to us in school and in church. And by the government in terms of race. And I remember kind of hitting my second last year's school when I started actually stop and question those studies.

And that was when I started to kind of interrogate what I wanted as opposed to what I had inherited without thinking about it.

D t at all. So, yeah, that was a huge shift for myself, and and actually informs a lot of the work that I do today.

What were some of the values you were taught? Growing up. Obviously, when you live in a country that has, as a government definition, the segregation, which the United States has had as well.

Obviously, when you decide to start changing it, it's about when you're questioning the values, it's about saying that what I've been taught is wrong.

For myself, you know, I'm looking at it through a new lens, and I believe that this is wrong. I believe that, you know, all humans are equally valuable that we shouldn't be educated separately.

We shouldn't have different doors. We shouldn't have different access based on our rates or based on our color. And that kind of unpacked a whole lot of new ways of looking at things.

But most importantly for me was that it maybe turned around and questioned all of the people that I cared about and all the people that I had looked up to and who who made me or taught me and say, I found them wanting So it lets me with not a best trust of leadership, but in kind of an openness to interrogate and propose to just blindly accept whatever we're told.

So I always have this kind of inquisitive nature and asking questions beyond the audience.

I suppose that helps as a speaker. Gives you a little bit more insight into your topics and ability to expound. So that's cool. Okay. So let me roll the question to then.

I don't wanna get stuck too much. In your past. I also wanna focus here on your president and then obviously a little bit more about your future. So question 2, What are some of your personal values now that you try to embody?

Fantastic. Thank you. So I really looked at my values quite intentionally because I knew that it's in the past that I kind of dismissed them. So I wanted to make sure that I had a good state that I honestly believed in it.

1 of the ones that came to the top which surprised me is agency. Mhmm. And agency is the freedom that an individual has to act for themselves. Their own lives to make decisions about themselves as opposed to being told what to do.

And that may well come from my past history, of course. But when I discovered that agency was a value of mine, I looked at my life and saw that it was reflected.

So for example, when I'm working with clients, I don't wanna go in and do the work for the clients. I want to equip the clients to do the work for themselves.

As a futurist, I don't want to come and tell people what the future should be or could be. I want them to really explore it even if what we're coming up with, I might disagree with that. We have to own it.

It has to be personal. I looked at how I raised my children and I didn't raise my children like my parents to raise to me and say, you know, under my roof, this is what we do, and this is what I'm telling you to do, and I'm the parent.

I really got them to take ownership of their decision and the consequences of their decision.

And obviously, raising children, there's gonna be a time and there's a little bit of a a rush catch. That my daughters are both of them, but older now, and they they let me know that they appreciate the fact that I gave them the state.

To work out for themselves with data leaders and then where they wanted to go as opposed to just informing them that as a parent, this is what they had to do.

The agency is 1 of my highest studies. And we had talked a little bit before also about transcendence and craftsmanship. How does that fit into your value system now?

So transcending is is it could be very esoteric that need just about transcending the ordinary rather than going to life just doing what is expected, falling into pattern, expecting what, you know, we can hurt you from the past, translate is really saying that it's the genius that we have as humans that create something better, bigger, more.

It's not about acquisition. It's not about just ransom getting more of something, but it's about really appreciating the gift of life and the gift of our personal creativity and genius and doing something with it.

So for example, the future is I talk a lot about artificial intelligence and robust because this is a big theme at the moment.

And while it's easy to just automatically say, artificial intelligence is going to take our jobs, and we must resist it. And, you know, there's a lot of that kind of anxiety about AI.

So what we could do is we could embrace what AI allows us to do. We could transcribe that and part of that then becomes part of the craftsmanship of the creativity. It's not about just mass producing something.

It's about producing unique works of art in whatever we're looking at, whether it's a book that we're writing or something that we're actually a furniture that we're making or a message that we're sharing or a way that we work with the clients, we can create something beautiful and unique.

From our creativity as humans in conjunction with the tools that we have, whatever they are, and that does craftsmanship. It's just not doing the ordering. It's just doing something more than that. I like that.

I wrote a book series over the last few years, and it's called life by legacy. And the goal is basically understanding where you came from to better interpret where you're gonna go, and I'd never attributed it to those values before.

So I appreciate you bring that up. There's I think a pretty impactful point you just made that just because it's how you were raised doesn't mean it's how you have to grow.

And I think that says quite a bit. So Actually, let me take that into question 3. How do you see your values changing then over the next 20 years?

It's not changing how much I haven't thought of before. 1 of the things that I have noticed because when people get older, a lot of people say, you know, I don't feel any differently from how I felt when I'm younger.

So I don't feel my age, although people might drive an age to me. And and I know of people who are in their twenties, eighties, nineties who don't feel like they're in the IT, they feel like they're 20.

But the 1 thing that I have this evidence that is very different from my younger years is that I was in a hurry when I was younger.

I was impatient for things to happen. I was impatient with people who were saying that they were changing things, but it was taking so so long to do it.

And as I've gotten older, when I work with younger people, I can see their impatient. And they're saying, this is obvious. Let's go and do it. It's not saying, let's debate it.

Let's have some philosophical conversation. Let's just draw in a few more people and hear their voices first. Let's collaborate on this before we just, you know, shoot out some work. And so I find myself slowing down.

Because I want a deeper appreciation of things. So that's for me the biggest change in my part that I imagine that that experience is going to change in the future. I don't know as I get older, will I become more impatient again?

Because I'm not scared that I'm running out of time or will I feel a deeper sense of kind of like settledness in time and an appreciation that there's a perspective over our life.

And that is it might be kind of devoting in my value. It's just that if we're trying to do everything today, there's a lot that has to be done.

Basically, back, and you look at the month, and you look at the year, and you look at the decade, and you look at your lifetime, that we don't have to be quite impatient we could actually just really experience and enjoy things a little bit deeper.

I think that is what I'm doing. Intention counts for quite a bit. Yeah. Maybe even if you don't have an end sort of resulting plan, but it does. It helps increase appreciation. It makes things more meaningful. That I totally agree.

Slowing down, I think, doesn't always necessarily have to convey, I guess, previously that you were impatient or that your patience has increased. I think to a certain degree, Yeah. Yeah. Some of that is just due to appreciation.

You know? And you're just maybe you're still just gonna be as, I don't know, crogy and impatient as you've always been when you get older. Right? But you're at least gonna understand and appreciate more what's happening around you.

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Maybe you're still just gonna be as I don't know. Crotchety and impatient as you've always been when you get older. Right? But you're at least gonna understand and appreciate more what's happening around you.

So Yeah. Well, I appreciate you saying that. I do have a question for you though. In how you work your personal values into your brand and your perspective and obviously your talks around futures.

What role would you say stewardship has in building that bridge and strengthening the alignment between your personal values and then your your talks. That's that's an important question.

And it's 1 that I've had with a couple of other future colleagues, particularly here in Africa, where there's a lot of and we don't need to go into this too deeply, but to kind of reference it, but there's a lot of really strong religious history and kind of culture in Africa.

And sometimes it's questionable, sometimes or the the local indigenous religion. But a lot of the the concept there is that the future is in God's hands.

The future is in someone else's hands, and we should trust that deity to set to set up the future for us. And so my future colleagues and I was that we're saying, how do we talk about this?

How do we talk about the responsibility for the future? For people who feel like the future is in someone else's hands and they shouldn't be doing anything.

And then both in in Christianity and in Islam, we've spoken with, you know, religious leaders and we've extracted the concept of stewardship.

Now regardless of our religious preference, I believe we all, as humans, as humanity, we had this viewership of the planet of this life -- Yeah.

-- of all of the skills and insights and wisdom that makes us individual. And and we can do nothing with that or we could do something significant with that.

And as an example, in the Christian Bible, there's a story powerful about business man who goes away and he leaves talents, he leaves things with with 3 of his servants. And 1 is afraid anytime there is and the other 1 does something.

But the third 1 makes a significant investment. So when the businessman comes back again, he is impressed with the servant who has actually taken that candidate and done something amazing with it.

And that demonstrated duership. It's not sitting on something. It's not holding. It's not hiding. It's not advocating. It's taking what we have and making something better. Transstanding what we originally had.

And whether it's our life or the job that we have or the family that we have or the planet, we can do more. We can do better. We can transcend what we have by creating something more with it. For me, that is true.

Those just making the most out of what we have as opposed to using it for our own advantage only. And that kind of exclusionary approach being able to manage what you've got -- Right. -- appreciating, I guess, that value.

I mean, you could look at any economic model too. That's anything anybody wants. So, like, I'm I'm buy this car, generally speaking. But if I can resell it and it holds value, I'm more likely to purchase it now.

Right? Or No. Or, I don't know, why most people at least in first world countries buy houses. Right? It's not necessarily for the sake of shelter and survive.

As much as it is. Well, because I can sell it later and I can make money. Otherwise, I'll just rent, you know. So -- Yeah. -- in terms of appreciating value, I think your definition of stewardship pretty powerful too.

You've got a model though that we had discussed prior to this conversation. I don't remember if you had a name associated with it, but it was a 4 step model to be able to what was it?

Increase just stewardship or plan for -- Yeah. -- future? Yes. So it's a 4 step model to not to to time for the future. It's it's really simple. I call it the compass model because my kind of bigger model is a a max compass guide.

We have a a max of time. We have a campus that encompasses all the tools that we have available. And then the guide is who is teaching you and helping you to understand the future.

So when I'm working with audiences or with clients, I am the guy that because I believe, as an agency, I wanna cost this onto someone. So whoever hears me, they can be the guide in the future.

So the compass is so powerful because it is full simple steps to any future's planet. And the very first 1 is to gather their intelligence, gather information, what do we need to know about this problem the situation.

What is it that we need to know about the future of my career or the future of this business or the family or our city? And we wanna gather that intelligence together. The second stage is to manage change.

And as humans, I'm not just because when I was just talking about change, obviously, in the values that are close there, when plays it because some people always want change young generation almost anticipate change all the time.

They get frustrated if things aren't changing. Older generations kind of resist too much change. But if we can understand what change needs to be made and how we as humans respond to change, then we can change better for the future.

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Then the third step or the third step into this campus model, is the most important as far as I'm concerned because it's described in the future.

And that's when you really get to sit down and act as futurists and we're saying the future could look like a or could look like b.

And we don't like b. We wanted to be like a. And we're looking at 5 or 10 years up. So what changes can we make right now today that will aim us either so slightly towards the better future rather than the worst future?

And, you know, in in 5 years' time, it will be so difficult to move ourselves from the wrong page to the right place.

But today, it's so much easier to just aim us all just 1 degree more in the correct direction and then we can get there.

So describe in the future, we look at scenarios, but in the divisioning, we look at all the words that we use to talk about the future, the analogies that we have, and the more we get that right.

The approach that we can get to the future that we actually want, rather than saying 1 day and by your time, this wasn't what I wanted.

That we don't know how to articulate what we did once and we didn't do anything 5 years ago to get there. So describe in the future that's the third stage the first 1 was gathering intelligence.

Second is managing change. Third is described in the future. And then the fourth stage is to test your strategy. And of course, there are models and approaches to take any kind of strategy, but and there are some here for futures.

But the the idea here is just to keep making sure that we're aiming closer towards our better preferred future rather than the 1 that we don't want. That's the campus model and sourcing.

So this all sort of sounds like a I don't know if metaphysical is the right word or idealistic or something sort of intangible when you're saying futures, especially to plan for it, is this as a sort of microcosm of like, I just need to budget better?

Or I need to plan for my family or for my retirement better? Or is this like, as a society, we need to build Wakanda. You know, what's the Yeah. Middle of ground. Yeah. Alright.

So for me, I I love that question. Thank you. Because the future tools that have been out there, I mean, It seems to a lot of people that this is a very new field. I mean, you're like, other fields have been around for much longer.

All the universities have courses on them that many fewer universities have futures courses than any other kind of profession. Because it is relatively new, but it has been used for decades already kind of in the background.

And possibly, if you talk about strategic planning or about resources or about you know, that those kinds of logistics that might be where a lot of people would imagine that originally if you're thinking came from.

It's being used by multinational.

Valuable company. It's been used by government. It's been used by the largest military organizations in the world for a very long time. So it's been around and it's really significant at those very high levels.

I feel frustrated knowing that there's a set of tools that can help multinationals do some thing. Why should we be able to use those tools for entrepreneurs or for small business?

So I find a way the whole time to kind of articulate what sounds really complicated and complex, written down to something that is more tangible, personal business, for funding, But allow that person to know that it's I'm not just kind of making that model for the front of it.

Behind what we're talking about is all of the science and all of these studies and all of these business models.

And I'll tell you how appropriate it is, and I went to which I came on 1 of my webinars just to kinda support mom, which was very sweet. But She knows the work that I I do, and she's writing my books and things.

But at the end of the course, there were kind of business people on there, or people in science, or people in marketing, and they all kind of give me feedback. And my daughter said, this is great.

I can use this model to plan for my studies towards my future. So not for the rest of her life, not for retirement, not even for her career, she's just using these models to reframe and redirect her studies in the next 3 years.

And for me, guys could be better because I want it to be tangible for all the best. I don't want it to feel it's not esoteric. I mean, these are very practical things that we look at.

We can hand it out and mess some fun with it kind of esoteric 5 if you if we like. But really, they are tangible practical models that we can do. Already folks sit tight and we'll be right back on transacting value.

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It's not esoteric. I mean, these are very practical things that we look at. We can hand it out and have some fun, but they're kind of esoteric by if if we like.

But really they are tangible, practical models that we can use. I like that. It's I think I found the best results, not even just in my planning. So for anybody listening and then obviously Charlotte for you as well.

So I'm currently active duty and part of what I do, I guess, you could say as a sort of daily or weekly part of my routine involves fitness programming and working out in these types of considerations.

And the largest or greatest returns that I found on some of those efforts, especially for other marines, is that you have to find ways to more fluidly integrate the program with as minimal complexity as possible.

And that way, you can ensure that there's the highest chance of consistency and the highest chance of competency without you being the agency piece, I think, is more appropriate to how you described it.

So, yeah, being able to tell her what you're saying, I mean, for 1 to your daughter is huge. Right? That's gotta feel good as a mom, but also some sort of validation for what you're doing that this doesn't just apply to I don't know.

I'm naming companies here, but Exxon or whoever else, you know, global conglomerates. So the relateability there is huge too.

You brought up a point to me though, speaking of relatability prior to us starting this conversation, that there's a sort of a difference maybe even some sort of a dichotomy or a balance between a speaking world and a futures world?

Can you jump into that real quick? What are you referring to? What was that about?

I kind of stand both of those spaces, and it's really fascinating to work in that space because for professional speakers, when people don't know what a professional speaker is and we try to explain it to them, most people get the picture of a motivational speaker, you know, like Chinese button.

And certainly, he would be, you know, a good example. But we're not all just talking about motivation things, but we're talking about There'll be professional speakers in every industry and every sector.

So there there are military experts. There are sales experts. There are health experts. There are parenting and education experts.

And all those people would if they have the right kind of temperament and they want to do this, they're an expert in their field and they bring back to the stage or to the screen to share with people, to teach, educate, motivate, perhaps inspire, get some new tools, get some new insights, or effective, or they've done some studies and they want to bring that to the audience.

So for me, I actually feel like the a lot of the specialties out there are actually acting as futures, but they don't even realize that.

And for me, it was only a few years ago that I even realized that the there was a thing called the Future. And at the minute I discovered that I kind of I felt like I come home.

So I think the difference here is that the futures world is is feels a lot newer to a lot of people. We don't have all the history that the kind of icon in the futures world are still alive.

They're still here. They're apart from a few of them who have passed away. But it's still very new to us. And so we've kind of tried to learn that language.

And what I'm trying to do is because I shine that insight to my speaking colleagues as well and say every time that you work with an audience to work with a client, you are actually helping them to think about scenarios for their own future.

You're helping them to paint a picture to cast a vision for the future, so you are acting as future.

And after me, it's just kind of raving at home. Not everybody is going to be a professional speaker. Most people don't even like to be public speakers or stand on stage and say something or put their hand up in a meeting.

So most people kind of shy away from that, that we are all future. And yet, the futures world and the ideas about the futures world are so unknown to us. They're so novel because we've never thought of this.

You know, a lot of people automatically think that a future is just either really esoteric that we're talking about, you know, like crystal ball reading or that we can actually calculate and predict the future, which we can't.

Okay? We do not know much numbers, if we don't know, it's gonna be a Lexus, like or somehow there's it's car lifetime section.

It's like, oh, no. We don't wanna talk about the car lifetime section of it. That's And while there there are science fiction elements and science fiction is really helpful in terms of scenarios, this is infection.

This is a fantasy. This is just practical things that we already do, that we can give better, more intentionally, more consciously.

I think what's so cool about the intention and the active role in conscious effort you're taking. And for 1, just broadcasting this.

And I guess you could say raising awareness to the fact that people have futures, but this planning capability is sort of like you brought up earlier. You talk about AI and robotics or the gaming industry even. Right?

There may not be like a social progression for a lot of people when you're talking I'm assuming based on how you described your daughter, Gen Z or millennial sort of age ranges, the future to some of them now, like my son's age, His future consists of when can I play Roblox again?

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You want more value for your values. Bush Truck can do that too. The future to some of them now like my son's 8, his future consists of when can I play Roblox again?

You know? And I don't wanna do my homework because I have other games that I wanna play instead. So, you know, I think it's even scalable down to a perspective.

From the angle that as you're considering futures planning and you're talking about futures alchemy and putting these perspectives together to make this new relatively better, comparably better future, that all of the humanities that are involved in that isn't just demographic metrics.

Right?

Like, understanding culture and your values and how you want to, I guess, align your character with your value system you can be in a video game doing that, right, for all the 8 year olds that may ever or never hear this interview.

I don't know. But, you know, you can put that into a video game too. Right? Doesn't matter how digitized we get.

It's still humans that make the games and the characters and the gameplay and interact. And I think it's just sort of a digitized version of our what would you call it, social network, construct infrastructure, just digitize.

Yeah. So I think understanding those things is a lot more ubiquitous than maybe just this conversation alluded to.

So I really appreciate you diving into it though and taking some time to really just break it down and talk through, obviously, future's alchemy, but I really like the layout you put together when you were talking about your map, composition, guide, structure, and philosophy.

It's such a simple way to articulate things that are potentially so ambiguous and so broad to help iron out of focus and just provide a direction, which I guess I mean, now that I say that loud is the point of the guide.

So You're doing your job well, I guess. Thanks for that too. But I really appreciate you.

Coming out and having this conversation and your willingness to be vulnerable and talk about some of these things. Maybe in a format and maybe with some questions that you're not normally accustomed to receiving.

So thank you. But I I thank you very much for the the questions as well because I don't often get enough time to talk about those people very often want to jump into the practical thing.

Like, how can I use this to do this data? Okay. Well, let's talk about how that is first because If you don't know what you value now, you won't know what you value in the future.

You won't know what direction you're going in. So it really is I mean, this is the foundation of so many conversations we should be having.

So what you are inviting us to consider is so essential for all the work that we do. So thank you. Well, that's powerful. That's probably the most impactful feedback I've gotten so far.

So thanks. I appreciate that too. If anybody wants to reach out to you though, Charlotte, or find out more maybe even about the global speakers Federation or Futures Alchemy or your books.

How do people get in touch with you? How do they reach out? Thank you. So I have a website called futures alchemist dot com, and that's where most of my my work is. And from there, you'll find links to other settings.

The global speaker acceleration yeah. I wouldn't recommend, but you can find the global speakers' acceleration website. I think it's cool. Something like global speakers dot net or something.

But rather look for your local association or for the local kind of preferred association as well as the local speaking class like toastmasters and get connected there and, you know, this is something of of interest to you even if you there was always a kind of the first day that somebody heard about speaking professionally.

I thought, hey, no. I could do this. So if that is you, then start the journey. It's so much fun. So just find out what is local for you and they get connected. Awesome.

Thank you. And for everybody listening, we'll have links to, obviously, Charlotte's information and global speaker's moderation as well in the show notes. So you can click on show more or more information depending on your platform.

And you'll see all those links tied in here as well. I meant to ask you about toastmasters though, Charlotte. I did I started them I don't remember now how many years ago.

But I I started going to their chapter meetings as well. So, yeah, I'm a huge advocate for toastmasters international. If that's something any of our listeners are interested in as well, please check them out.

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